Chancellor K Jackson 14 Days in Beijing

Chancellor Jackson

[00:00:00] Chancellor Jackson: On it, I took a piece of, uh, printer paper, I just started drawing, um, sketching out how I wanted the book to look. And originally I drew my torso, like the torso of my body with the uniform jacket that I had, that we had to wear. So I drew it out and colored it and everything. So it was going to be just a picture of my torso with the jacket over it. And then of course the title across my chest and that's the original idea I came up with. And I was just showing it to people, like, Oh yeah, that's hard, that's hard. I showed it to my brother, he was like, you know what I'm saying, he didn't really say it was fine, like, he liked it or nothing, he was like, he saw, he was like, Okay, I see what you're going, I feel like it'd be harder if it was an actual picture.

[00:00:43] As soon as he said that, I'm like, That would be hard. I can't, I need that jacket in order for me to do that, but I can't get that jacket. That jacket was in Beijing jail six. I'm like, I don't even know how I'm going, so I was just, I'm just brainstorming. I'm like, I have to recreate the jacket. I'm like, I got to figure out the material. I got to find out, um, at least find a jacket that had the similar material that the one that we wore in Beijing jail six. And ironically, my brother had a Dickies jacket, you know what I'm saying, in his closet.

[00:01:13] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:01:14] Chancellor Jackson: And I just looked at the jacket, I'm just like, Hold on brother, I'm feeling it. Look at the, I opened up the inside I'm like, Brother, this is the exact, I'm like, This is how the jacket felt on the outside. This is how it was on the inside. Only difference was the jacket was Velcro in the jail versus it being a zipper.

[00:01:38] Ed Watters: To overcome, you must educate. Educate, not only yourself, but educate anyone seeking to learn. We are all Dead America, we can all learn something. To learn, we must challenge what we already understand. The way we do that is through conversation. Sometimes we have conversations with others, however, Some of the best conversations happen with ourself. Reach out and challenge yourself; let's dive in and learn something right now.

[00:02:30] Today we're speaking with Chancellor Jackson. He is a 15 time bestselling author on Amazon. His first book, 14 Days in Beijing, leads us into a great conversation with Chancellor. Chancellor, could you please introduce yourself? Let people know just a little more about you, please?

[00:02:54] Chancellor Jackson: What's going on, Ed? How you doing, bro? Um, blessings and balance to everyone that's tuning in. Um, appreciate y'all for the show. Name is Chancellor K. Jackson I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, born and raised. Um, played football vast majority of my life so I got to play in high school and in college all four years. After my football career came to an end, I was like, Well, what's next?

[00:03:18] You know, I really had no plan B, um, so I knew I needed to start somewhere. So I just started the job search, um, and I was mainly applying for positions in the corporate field. So sales, marketing, management, you know what I'm saying? That whole lot. And I was landing interviews, I'm talking about getting flown out, put up in hotels,

[00:03:38] the whole lot. But I just could not seem to land a position. Um, I interviewed with various companies for various positions and I did this for about eight months. And I was sat across, I done graduated, I'm back home, just like, damn, bro, I done did everything, quote unquote, the textbook way and I ain't got nothing going.

[00:03:58] Um, but I knew, I was like, If I quit, I'd never be shit, so that wasn't an option. Um, so continued the, uh, job search, but broadened my search and switched fields. Um, so I just started looking into social work cause I'm like, Chaz, you good at talking to people, working with people, um, that's probably where you need to be, you know what

[00:04:18] I'm saying? So, um, and while I was doing my job search, I saw a tab in one of the filters. Um, it was for an international and I was like, Damn, why haven't I ever thought to look outside the U. S. for opportunities? So, saw, went to see what was cracking overseas and that's when I seen, uh, the position, teach English to children in China.

[00:04:42] Okay, that sounds lit right there. Your requirements were basic bachelor's degree, no matter what your degree is in, uh, clean background, native English speaker. So I'll bet that's me to a T. I apply and all I had to do was submit a resume. So I hear back from the recruiter, set up an interview. We do the interview, a few days pass, recruiter reaches back out to me.

[00:05:05] It's like, We want to move forward with you as a candidate. So after eight months of just trial and error, the first job to me is on the other side of the world. So that's how I ended up in China. Um, I was out there for six months, I was supposed to do a year total, um, before I got locked up. And

[00:05:22] after I was, you know what I'm saying? Once I was arrested and then, you know what I'm saying, detained, uh, and after I was released, I was immediately deported from the country. Um, started writing 14 Days of Beijing. And then once I released 14 Days of Beijing, I was writing the number one new bestseller in three, in three different genres.

[00:05:38] Um, continued to push the book, push the book and promote the book. And that's when I got into life coaching, coaching at risk teens in my county. And we used 14 Days of Beijing as part of our lessons to pull our life skills from. I could still teach and coach. I started my own publishing company, which all my books are published through.

[00:05:57] Um, I have a car rental business now. Um, rent cars out on Turo. Um, yeah, man, just running a couple of marathons trying to get established. It's just down to earth, dude, you know what I'm saying? Humble

[00:06:10] Ed Watters: Doing it.

[00:06:11] Chancellor Jackson: Yeah, man. Just it, man. Just trying to get it out the mud, that's it.

[00:06:14] Ed Watters: Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's an interesting story that you have, Chancellor. You, you go from a collegiate football player to a Beijing prisoner, it's kind of interesting. Now, it's obvious you got, uh, in the prison because of marijuana.

[00:06:38] Chancellor Jackson: Yeah.

[00:06:39] Ed Watters: So, let's, let's travel back to the first time you got into marijuana. What, what, what got you into marijuana to begin with?

[00:06:53] Chancellor Jackson: Well, so I really started smoking for real, for real in my senior year of college. And pretty much,

[00:07:00] Ed Watters: Oh, wow.

[00:07:00] Chancellor Jackson: yeah. Yeah. I was, yeah. So I quit growing up. Stumps, my man, I'm from Atlanta. I had peers smoking in middle school, you know what I'm saying? So they always hound me, but I just never really saw the point in it. And then it was times where I did try it early on. And I'm talking about, I smoked with one of my buddies, and I wouldn't get high.

[00:07:23] I don't know if the weed was trash, or, you know what I'm saying? I don't know what was going on, we'd be tired. I only smoked like twice, um, and the two times that I did smoke I'm like, Bro, this is stupid. This is what y'all doing, y'all wasting your time. Y'all be waking up early just do this and go to play this fool.

[00:07:38] But it wasn't until college, of course, once you go to college, then start experiment and find yourself more, um, so I have peers that, that partook it. And it wasn't until, um, we, it was spring break, actually, my, shoot, ooh, sophomore year, I want to say. We was back home, all my buddies from college, I brought them back home to Atlanta. And we was at Georgia State, because I knew a girl that worked there. So we was hanging out with her and her friends, and they doing, and um, we had smoked and that was probably like the first time I enjoyed it.

[00:08:13] I was like, Okay, I see why people do this. But it really wasn't until I smoked and listened to music and once I was just like, the music just enhanced, I was like, I was hearing every element within the, you know what I'm saying, the song we was listening to. It was Travis Scott. That's what we was listening to, Travis Scott. And I was like, Oh my, this is amazing. And that's what made me fall in love with, with cannabis. Like I just, that's my favorite thing, you know what I'm saying now, just smoke and listen to music. For real, for real. But yeah, that's how I got introduced to it.

[00:08:44] Ed Watters: Yeah. I, I, my first introduction was, uh, at nine years old. So I've taken a journey down that cannabis road, for sure. So it's interesting that you get into this situation where you can actually go over to China. Uh, it's one of those cultural things, you know, everybody wants to understand what it's like.

[00:09:14] Chancellor Jackson: Yeah.

[00:09:14] Ed Watters: So what, what is China like, you know, in its culture per se? Uh, because listening to some of the narration of your book, there's a cleanliness issue in all of these, is this culture wide or was that based inside the prison itself?

[00:09:35] Chancellor Jackson: Yeah, that's culture wide. Um, China is a very interesting place, it's, it's life as it is here in America or wherever you may be. Um, it's still life, everyday life. People wake up, go to work, kids go to school, you know what I'm saying? It's still that same, you know what I'm saying, it's the size of them all, um, it's just different.

[00:09:55] It's still the same thing, but it's just different. Um, the people [00:10:00] are, I would just say they're just confined to China. Pretty much all they know is China, a lot of them haven't been outside of China. Some of them ain't been outside they little town that they was born in. And it's similar to here in America, you got people that ain't never left towns.

[00:10:16] So it's very, like, it's still similar. So it was like, we just, those that have been exposed to only a certain amount, that's all they know. So when they do come across something that's different or taboo in comparison to where they're from, it's just like this culture shock or just this, this, uh, paradigm shift. It's like, Whoa, okay, you know what I'm saying?

[00:10:35] But all in all, it's still life as we would see it here. Um, it's just, it's a lot more disciplined and a lot more strict over there, of course, it's a communist country. So, I mean, there, there are rules and you must abide by them. There's no, they have a saying, There's no Y in China. You know what I'm saying? Here in the west of the world. We just can't do nothing. And just 'cause we're getting told to do it, no, we need some explanation, a little, we need some evidence, some,

[00:11:04] Ed Watters: Yeah, that's right.

[00:11:05] Chancellor Jackson: you know what I'm saying? Like,

[00:11:06] Ed Watters: That's messed up.

[00:11:07] Chancellor Jackson: Yeah, yeah. No, there's no Y in China. We tell, used to tell them that, yeah, there you are. That's how they are. But all in all, I enjoy every minute of my time in China.

[00:11:19] The people were, they were cool. Where some of them, you know what I'm saying, that weren't used to seeing people of color, at least from my experience. They would just ask me questions and there was this pure curiosity. Because like, okay, this is what I just know from the media stereotypes. So now you compare, contrast,

[00:11:39] okay, what are, how are you in comparison to what I've seen in the media? You understand that's all they want to do, it's the same, vice versa. It is the same vice versa. Like we know anything about these

[00:11:49] Ed Watters: Traps.

[00:11:51] Chancellor Jackson: So like you said, so once you get over that, it was just like, okay. You know what I'm saying? We'll be cool. It's all peace, love, and prosperity. You cares, I'm cares. I bet. Um, so I misconstrued, uh, ideas we have of the Chinese, like not everybody's educated, not everybody's smart, you know what I'm saying? Common sense ain't common, you know what I'm saying? That's the same as over here. Now the hygiene is different,

[00:12:20] they go there, how they go about hygiene is completely different than how we do it over here in the U. S. Like in China, we had to, um, go to hospitals and get like physicals and stuff. Like they, they, in the hospital, like they're drawing blood from your arm and a nurse that has drawn blood from you, ain't got no gloves on, like nothing.

[00:12:36] No mask on, no, nothing. She would have bare hands on your skin, right? Yeah. Yeah. Down here, that was different. Um, they don't wash their hands. A lot of the public restrooms don't have soap, um, so people ain't washing their hands, you know what I'm saying? They doing what they do and then they going about their business. Even when you at restaurants,

[00:12:57] you know what I'm saying? The bathroom ain't got no soap, so you already know, if you see the chef or somebody from, from that kitchen, leave out that bathroom, you know. You already know what's going on, you know what I mean? Yeah. Even at school, at work, yeah.

[00:13:10] Ed Watters: It's got to be tough, yeah.

[00:13:13] Chancellor Jackson: What, even at school, at work, there ain't, ain't no soap in the bathroom or toilet paper, you know what I mean? So it was like, they gave us staff, and then like teachers, they gave us our own personal soap and toilet paper. But as far as the students and the rest of the faculty, like the janitors and stuff, I mean, I don't know how they, I don't know what they were doing. I mean, I got an idea. They ain't got none, so it's real, you know what I'm saying?

[00:13:35] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:13:35] Chancellor Jackson: Like I said, You can only imagine.

[00:13:37] Ed Watters: There's no soap either.

[00:13:39] Chancellor Jackson: And then it was, I was there during the winter. So you got the flu season and the kids already nasty in general. So it was like, it was, yeah, it was, but I, I didn't get sick. And the one time I was out there, you know what I'm saying? Immune system strong, you know what I mean? So

[00:13:55] Ed Watters: That's right.

[00:13:56] Chancellor Jackson: that was smooth. The food was fire. Authentic Chinese food, man, it's nothing like Americanized or Westernized Chinese food. Um, it's completely different and it's, it's, it's, it's really, really good, it's delicious and it's healthy for you too.

[00:14:13] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:14:14] Chancellor Jackson: And yeah, there's, it's a, it's a, it's a lot of differences, you know what I'm saying? They don't excuse me or just common courtesy. There's no, you know what I'm saying, that ain't not, they don't, if you in the way, they will move you out of the way. Like, it is, if you, you know what I'm saying. It's aggressive, um, but like not trying to be aggressive. They just, It's like you're completely oblivious, you know what I mean? Um,

[00:14:40] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:14:40] Chancellor Jackson: All the liars, it's a different world over there. Whole different world. Of course the language and, don't nobody look like you or speak your language, you know what I'm saying? None of that. Um, but,

[00:14:50] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:14:51] Chancellor Jackson: I enjoyed every minute. Every, every minute. Even going out, like the nightlife, it's lit. Night life in China, oh man, Christ. It's about

[00:14:59] Ed Watters: Interesting. Yeah. So, so what was it like, uh, you not knowing a lot of Chinese language, Mandarin? Uh, what was it like to emerge yourself in the culture and be that fly on the wall, basically just setting back, observing and, you know, really absorbing what's going on?

[00:15:23] Chancellor Jackson: I feel a little like any foreigner here. And that's something most of us that are from here probably never will get to experience or haven't even gotten to experience. Like, it's one thing you on vacation someplace different, that's different. But now you go move

[00:15:39] Ed Watters: Right.

[00:15:40] Chancellor Jackson: someplace and like now we're submerged in this. Oh yeah, you'll see how any foreigner feel. Man, you ain't strong in that language, you, they get to talking, it's like, Oh wow, I don't know what's going on around me. It was like, man, despite how much you may have studied, it's, it's still not completely, it's not going to be the same, you know what I'm saying? How you learn it versus somebody that's speaking in a native, native, natural tongue with their slang and their accent, oh man, what? It's okay, yeah. I see how it is.

[00:16:09] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:16:09] Chancellor Jackson: Yeah, I see how it is. Like, this is not easy to go, you know what I'm saying?

[00:16:13] Ed Watters: That's an experience.

[00:16:14] Chancellor Jackson: Oh, yeah, for sure, you know what I'm saying? And even being, um, even with the Chinese people, like, some that were, they had a little bit of, uh, they know a little bit of English, they were still so subconscious just to try to use it just because they weren't proficient at it. And I'm like, See, brother, I ain't proficient in your language either.

[00:16:33] But, hey, I'm gonna work my one the best that I can. It's nothing you should be ashamed of, but that's just how they are. They're very prideful and they want to make sure they're going to put on a showcase. They're going, it's going to be absolutely stellar. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be the best performance you've ever seen.

[00:16:48] Um, but it really wasn't hard to, uh, exist and move and I'm still working my one out there. Cause mainly I ain't really kicking it with foreigners, I'm with other, I mean, I'm not kicking it with no native people. I'm kicking it with foreigners, people that speak English. So

[00:17:04] Ed Watters: Right.

[00:17:04] Chancellor Jackson: of course, with them, I could just speak. Now, when I'm out and about trying to get stuff, I knew, I took it upon myself to learn, start learning some of the language before I went out there. So I knew just enough to get by, you know what I mean? Work my way, now, as far as having a full in depth conversation like you and I are having, it's quiet, it's not happening. It is not happening.

[00:17:22] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:17:23] Chancellor Jackson: But I knew just enough just to work my way and that's all I really needed. And plus with technology, they got all these different apps that can translate for you. So really, it was really smooth when it came to just communicating with the, I mean, uh, society out there.

[00:17:39] Ed Watters: Interesting. Did you, did you ever go beyond the city into the urban areas, the rural areas, I mean, and, uh, experience any of that culture?

[00:17:51] Chancellor Jackson: No.

[00:17:51] Ed Watters: The jail was enough.

[00:17:54] Chancellor Jackson: Like for Christmas, we booked an Airbnb, um, on the outskirts of Beijing. And it wasn't like in the bum fucks of China, but it was definitely on, it was definitely in the outskirts. Like we was far, but where we was at was in a nice, nice, like these folks had money. Like it was an area with folks that had money. I'm talking about, it wasn't like this big old extravagant multi story house, but like far as just the property itself, you know what I'm saying? The main building might have two floors, but everything else might be single floor, but like it's the whole construct of this property is like a big U.

[00:18:29] Like it's multiple buildings making a big U and it's all boarded up. Yeah, so it was dope like, oh man, this is hard, like that. You know what I'm saying? That building over there got rooms and stuff. It's been over here, They got their own stuff. They've been over here got their own, it was, it was, it was lit. It was definitely interesting to experience but that was as far out, and then we went to The Great Walls, of course. Um, that was as far out as we did go as far as, you know, like you, like you're talking about like inland China. Like, nah,, man. Can you imagine going out there that, that sounds like a whole different experience because in Beijing, that's the cap. So there are more interesting things to see than foreigners. Now if I take my advice, if I would have been in the bum fucks China, oh man, ain't no telling what that experience would have been. They get,

[00:19:18] Ed Watters: Interesting.

[00:19:20] Chancellor Jackson: they don't, they, they definitely don't come across foreigners. So it's like, oh, now I'm really sticking out like a sore thumb, all eyes on me. Um, folks were definitely walking up to you, touching all on you, taking pictures with you, you taking pictures. When they ask you if they could take a picture, they just walk up to you with their phone out taking the selfie, you know what I'm saying? With you.

[00:19:39] Ed Watters: Yeah. Let's do this quick. Interesting. Yeah. So, you know, it's a very different atmosphere over there when you're being booked into a jail and being, especially if you don't know [00:20:00] what the hell's going on. So here you are, you're going through the loops, you're trying to get along to get the hell out of here when they arrest you. And finally, you come to this cell number 208. And they say, Get in there and, uh, you're just like, Well, here I am finally. And you know, your true destination is possibly right here. What was that feeling like?

[00:20:32] Chancellor Jackson: Well, yeah. So once we, um, like we got to the cell, the CO got, he escorted me to the cell. He opened it, instantly my psyche stalled for a little bit. Just what I see, how the cell is set up, um, the cell is pretty much a huge rectangle by, I say, 15 X 15 X 15. Length, width, and height, you know what I'm saying? And, um, you know, I step into the cell and immediately in front of me are the beds, which are wooden planks. And they stretch out all the way to the back of the cell.

[00:21:09] It's like a little space from the cell door to the actual first bunk. So it's like a little space and then that's when the bunks start. Um, but they go all the way to the back of the cell. So on these bunks I see this is the huddle of bodies sleeping. Cause it's like 4 o'clock in the morning at this point, um, so I just see this huddle of bodies sleeping.

[00:21:26] Across from the huddle of bodies are two inmates standing against a wall wide awake watching them sleep. Now, with them being the few people that are awake, we make eye contact off the rip, and it's just this awkward moment of just confusion. Because, one, the last thing I expected to see was two motherfuckers watching people sleep, and the last thing these two expected was this brother with locks gonna walk through this door. So, okay, what's going on here? Like, what y'all got going?

[00:22:00] So, um, I take another step into the cell, CO closes the door behind me, and I'm just scoping the place out. I look to my left, that's the, um, bathroom. It's it's own separate room, but the walls are made of glass so everybody in the cell can see inside. It's a sink, squat toilet, so pretty much a hole in the ground that you squat over, and the shower holes were nothing but a water hose with a shower head duct taped to it.

[00:22:24] Got black mold coating the walls, flies and gnats and stuff flying around. It's, it's not the most, um, so, uh, pretty much like a slumber party, trying to find a spot to lie down. One of the inmates that was taking a watch wakes me up, oh, wakes two inmates up to make room for me, and they do. So, I set my bowl and my spoon up in a cubby up underneath the bunk, and I just lie down

[00:22:48] between two Chinese dudes on my back. And I've set my hands on my chest, and I'm just staring up at the bright light on the ceiling. And that's where reality fully, fully kicked in. Alright. You in here, you here? I don't know how long you're gonna be here. No, nothing has been explained to you as far as how this process works.

[00:23:08] Nobody knows you're here, it's not looking too good right about now. It's, it's not looking, it's not looking good. But hey, I got to hold myself accountable. You know what I mean? I can't blame nobody for me being in this situation but me. Um, and shit, I've been holding myself accountable this whole entire process up until this point.

[00:23:31] So it's just like there's no point in continuing to cry over spilled milk. It is what it is, you know what I mean? What needs to happen in order for this process to speed up and for me to get up out of here? That's how my mind is working. Um, so I'm like, Well, first thing, first, people need to realize you're in here. And, oh, for that to happen,

[00:23:49] you got to become missing on people's radar. Well, you were supposed to meet friends today, you know what I'm saying? You got arrested, so you didn't show up to that event. Now I'm sure they call, you ain't answer, is that a red flag? Nah, it's weird though. But when I don't show up for work Saturday and Sunday morning for my eight o'clock classes, all hell is breaking loose.

[00:24:13] Cause one, they gotta find somebody to cover my class last minute. And then two, one of the friends I was going to meet at that event the day I got locked up, me and her work at the same exact school. So I didn't show up at that event, and I ain't showing up for work, and y'all call and I ain't answer. Alright, red flag, something's wrong.

[00:24:29] You know what I'm saying? And in addition to all of that, I had a girlfriend at the time that still lived in America, but we communicated, uh, regularly. I said, Well, I don't respond to two of her messages, that's another red flag. So I'm like, I know I'm gonna have to sit through the weekend at least. You know what I'm saying?

[00:24:44] It's, it's Friday morning now, I'm gonna have to sit throughout this weekend before I become missing on people's radar. But once that happens, the search for me will begin. But until then, hey man, you're gonna have to hold it down, you're gonna have to hold it down. That was just to hold my mind, that was my whole mindset, uh, initially. Um, and

[00:25:05] Ed Watters: So with that, then, then you progress into it a little bit further and the story of Bruce comes up. So who is Bruce?

[00:25:18] Chancellor Jackson: Bruce is a very, very interesting character that I still don't even fully know myself to this day, even though he is a pivotal, he's a very important character within the book. Um, just cause he has a crazy situation out of anybody. Um, I admit, and ironically, me and, him and I's situation was, was similar as far as just being locked up in this facility and you got no clue how long you're going to be here. Literally, me and him were the only two, at least from my knowledge, from people, other foreigners I was able to interact with, me and him were the only two foreigners that had no clue how long we were going to be there.

[00:25:52] Everybody else was given a set date or like a set amount of days for them to serve. Now, does that mean you're going to do that? That set amount of time and you're going to be released? No, you're still going to do some time afterwards. But at least you have an idea of how long you're going to be here.

[00:26:09] Even him don't know. And from his, uh, his experience, he's been here for damn near a whole year now. And he don't know what's going on. Like, he's like me, it sounds like this is his day one. Okay, he been here all the 365. So he's like, Oh man, this is crazy. And he gives information of, you know what I'm saying?

[00:26:31] How you can find him and, uh, who his, you know what I'm saying? Who his wife was, where they lived, and you know what I'm saying? All this information, but it's crazy. Cause he gives his speech, he gives the same speech every morning. I have, I did not lay my eyes on this individual at all. I don't even know. Once I was released and you know what I'm saying?

[00:26:51] I learned what he looked like from other foreigners that was there. But far as my time there, I never saw him. Um, I only knew about him cause every morning he would say the same speech from whatever window he, whatever cell he was in. He would shout out the window the same exact speech every single day. And like,

[00:27:11] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:27:11] Chancellor Jackson: every single day. And that's how I, you know what I'm saying, learned who Bruce was and it was like, man, this is crazy. And I even tried to like, you know what I'm saying, help when he calls out, cause, you know what I'm saying? Like, damn, see, because every time, like he's, he gives the same speech every day, but it's crazy. Every time he gives like good, good information to actually, that could help you figure out who he is or find him on the internet,

[00:27:33] it was like, I could not make out what he was saying. Like he was saying, My name is Bruce. And then every time he said his last name, for the life of me, I could not understand what he was saying. Or he would say where his, where the school his wife worked at. I could not make out what the name of the school was. Like anything that was very, very pivotal was like, well, I can't make out what this man is saying.

[00:27:55] It was like that throughout the whole course of the book. I even had a conversation with one of the officers, one of the COs. It's later on into the story, I had a conversation with one of the officers. And cause, you know what I'm saying, I was trying to holler at Bruce, so I got in trouble for it. So he was asking me, me and him was just walking, he was like, You ain't trying to help, uh, Mr. Da da da da? I'm like, What? He said, Mr. Da da da. I'm like, I'm saying, What are you talking about?

[00:28:21] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:28:21] Chancellor Jackson: What are you talking about? He's like, The dude that's been yelling out the window. I was like, Oh. Now I'm just having, I'm blown away. I'm like, Bro, he just said this man's last name twice, bro. And for the life, I'm like, I don't know what this man, I couldn't make out what he was saying. So I'm like, yeah, what? Where was who? Literally, I can't be worried about him, brother. One, I don't, my, my situation is just like he is. So I need to make sure I get up out of here. One, and then two is like, every time somebody says his last name or anything that's beneficial to helping you bridge that gap,

[00:28:53] my bro, the universe clearly does not want me to know this information. Universe doesn't want me to know this man last name cause for whatever reason, it's probably, it's probably for my best benefit. So I just left it alone. But yeah, Bruce is, it was, it was, it was, man, that's kind of scary. No cap. That's kind of scary, I can't lie. Like for the life of me, I even tried, I'm like, Yo, I'm hollering at him. I get yelled at on the intercom to sit down with Whoop. And every time I heard this man's name,

[00:29:21] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:29:22] Chancellor Jackson: man's name, I just

[00:29:23] Ed Watters: That, that is a very interesting story about Bruce, that you definitely want the book for so you can find out more about that. Because, because there's a split moment there where you're like, Oh God, there's somebody there and here I am in the same situation. You've got to think, Oh, wow, that'd be enough, I'm, I'm screwed. And, and I hope some, because you just hope for the help that somebody knows [00:30:00] that you ended up here because you've been shifted around so many times, oh my God. So the moment Bruce hits the room is a pivotal moment in the book where, Oh, Christ, here we go. And you really don't know at that point, oh, am I going to be the next Bruce yelling that, Hey, you know? That it's got to be one of the worst feelings in the whole world.

[00:30:33] Chancellor Jackson: Hell, he was so stressed just in his speech

[00:30:35] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:30:36] Chancellor Jackson: you can hear, you can hear it. You know what I mean? Wow, this man,

[00:30:40] Ed Watters: You're in communist China prison at this point and it's like, Oh God, why China, you know? But China, it's an interesting place and a lot of people wonder about it. It sent you on a journey that gave you a wonderful book. And the book, the artwork on it with the mask and the handcuffs and all of that. Talk to us about what inspired that and why that background for the book?

[00:31:14] Chancellor Jackson: That was the year for, I was, cause, man, that's a great question. Cause Once I was going through the editing phase of the book and I'm like, Okay, now I got to come up with a cover, what? I don't even know how we can go about the cover to look, you know what I'm saying? So the original idea I had, like I was, I was at school,

[00:31:33] I was drawing it. I took a piece of, uh, printer paper, I just started drawing, um, sketching out how I wanted the book to look. And originally I drew my torso, like the torso of my body with the uniform jacket that I had, that we had to wear. So I drew it out and colored it and everything. So it was gonna be just a picture of my torso with the jacket over it

[00:31:54] and then, of course, the title across my chest. And that's, that's the original idea I came up with. And I was just showing it to people, like, Oh, yeah, that's hard, that's hard. I showed it to my brother he was like, you know what I'm saying? He didn't, like, really say it was fine, like, he liked it or nothing, he was like, he saw,

[00:32:09] he's like, Okay, I see where you're going. I feel like it'd be harder if it was an actual picture of you. As soon as he said that, I'm like, That would be awesome. But I'm like, How? I'm like, but I don't even know, I can't, I need that jacket in order for me to do that, but I can't get that jacket. That jacket was in Beijing jail six.

[00:32:30] I'm like, I don't even know how I'm going, so I was just, I'm just brainstorming. I'm like, I have to recreate the jacket, I'm like, I got to figure out the material, I got to find out, um, at least find a jacket that had the similar material as the one that we wore in Beijing Jail six. And ironically, my brother had a Dickies jacket, you know what I'm saying, in his closet.

[00:32:50] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:32:51] Chancellor Jackson: And I was just looking at the jacket, and I'm just like, Hold on, brother, I'm feeling that shit. Look at the, I opened up the inside, I'm like, brother, this is the exact, I'm like, this is how the jacket felt on the outside. This is how it was on the inside. Only difference was the jacket was Velcro in the jail versus it being a zipper.

[00:33:10] That's the only difference. So I'm like, Aw, I'm an idiot. This is it. So I just went on Dickie's, uh, website and ordered. I'm looking at the colors they had, they had like a teal blue one, that's the only blue one they had, so I ordered it. Um, it came and I had one of my partners I played football with in college,

[00:33:26] his girlfriend, she's an artist, she's stylist, fashion designer, she's phenomenal. So I gave her the jacket and gave her the sketch I drew, it was like, this is what I came up with, but the jacket is like, all you got to do is paint the top half yellow, put some red Chinese characters. These are characters that need to be on there on the chest plate and across the back.

[00:33:45] And this is the logo while I was locked up. I came up with, uh, what would be my brand logo for Korleh Publications. I came up with it while I was in there. I was like, This is my logo I came up with while I was in there, try to throw that on there, on the jacket as well. So, gave her, gave her everything that I, I needed. I'd say a couple days later and she had me to come, uh, come look at it. I saw that thing and it looked exactly like the jacket I wore for 14 days.

[00:34:13] Ed Watters: Awesome.

[00:34:13] Chancellor Jackson: And I was just like, I was like, Oh yeah, this is going to go crazy. It's going to go so crazy. So then I just set up, one of my, uh, good friends I grew up with is a photographer out here in Atlanta, one of the sharpest shooters in Atlanta, Gabo. Um, So we set up an appointment at Cam Kirk studios and yeah, we just did a whole photo shoot, just me and the jacket I had. I bought handcuffs, um, I brought a face mask. It was crazy how I got the idea for the face mask. We was, uh, I was trying to get ready to go out to the club and I was standing in line and one of the security guards had on, um, a face mask, the same as that one I had on the cover.

[00:34:51] I saw that and then when I saw his, he reminded me of the face mask I had in China, mine was just like that. I'm like, Well, if I had a face mask on that book cover, that'd go even harder. So I'm like, Alright, bet. I asked, who did you get your mask from? He said, Amazon. I said, Alright, bet. Found it, ordered it.

[00:35:07] So I had the mask on, put the handcuffs on and now this is a photo shoot. Now I'm just posing, doing different strikes and poses. And we collected about like 30, we had like 30 some pictures. And out of that 30, you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Of course, I chose the best ones to use to promote and, uh, use as book covers. But ideally, that's how we captured, um, that book cover. Essentially, it was just to recreate, uh, my mugshot.

[00:35:37] Ed Watters: Yeah. And it creates a feeling of, wow, what the hell, you know? Because, uh, the mind wonders, uh, nobody knows what happens in a foreign place. Look at Bruce, you know? So, uh, you've got other books, You Love And You Learn, and another, Real Love Never Dies. What were the inspiration behind those two and what are the meaning behind those?

[00:36:10] Chancellor Jackson: Sure. Um, so inspiration, I received quite a few different, um, inspirations to start that book. The first one, I mean, the very first, same person that inspired me to write 14 Days, one of my partners I grew up with, um, out here, he was a published author before we graduated high school in 2014.

[00:36:29] Um, he put the bug in my ear to write 14 Days. And then once 14 Days was going crazy, he was like, But you need to write the romance story. I'm like, Eh, nah, I don't really know about that. And then time passes, and there's more people reading the book. And of course, I'm having success. So I mean, a lot more people and a lot more women.

[00:36:48] So women is reading the book. Um, I had, like I said, I had a girlfriend at the time, so I talk about her all throughout the book, but I don't actually get to speak to her while I'm incarcerated. And then once I'm at the end of the book, I'm released and that's the end. So they was like, Okay, well, so what's up with your

[00:37:03] girl? You talked about her all throughout the book but, you know what I'm saying? You don't get to speak to her and then once you get out, that's the end. Like, Well, what's up with that scene? How did that all play out? Well, how that story play out? You know what I'm saying? They want to know about another, uh, inspiration. And, but really what was the selling point? It was when I was doing market research and, um, Which is looking up the best selling genres. And when I saw romance at the top, it was no, if, ands, or buts.

[00:37:31] Ed Watters: Really?

[00:37:31] Chancellor Jackson: That's all, that's all the motivation I need to dance. When I saw that's all, yeah. And, my partner would meet it. I said, Hey boy, send me a blueprint. I mean, uh, send me an outline, send me an outline for the romance. I just took to it right away. And, um, pretty much

[00:37:44] Ed Watters: That's cool.

[00:37:45] Chancellor Jackson: it's all one long, it's a series. It's, all three books, it's a series. It's telling one long story. Um,

[00:37:51] Ed Watters: Right on.

[00:37:52] Chancellor Jackson: the romance part is just pretty much, uh, A man's first step towards gaining emotional intelligence. So, You Love And You Learn gives the prequel of, you know what I'm saying? Before China, before all that. Me and her first met and throughout college. And then, um, Real Love Never Dies picks up, uh, once I graduate and now I'm in China and everything. It also touches on just what my experiences, uh, just some certain experiences I had in China that you don't really get to know about or learn about in 14 Days. Um, so Real Love Never Dies incorporates just some behind the scenes stuff that I was doing before getting locked up.

[00:38:30] And then of course, what took place after I was released and, you know what I'm saying, and deported from the country. Once I was stepped back, stepped foot back on American soil, picks up after, you know what I'm saying, picks up after all of that. Um, so it's pretty much all one long story, essentially, but, you know what I'm saying? Just different tones.

[00:38:50] Ed Watters: Interesting. That's, that's awesome marketing right there too. So how did your communication and media, what, what is it? Media studies degree help you creating this?

[00:39:06] Chancellor Jackson: Man, I just say Ed, just far as like, everything is communication, everything. When you think about it, everything. Um, and it doesn't have to be verbal. So even

[00:39:20] this body language is a form of communication without you even speaking it. Um, so really wanting to capture, um, the attention of somebody that don't know who I am and just came across it. They just see this 14 Days In Beijing, what the hell? Okay, what is it? Right? One, the name is captivating and then the cover is just like, I mean, when I first started, like when I first started promoting 14 Days, all I did was just change my uh, social media profile information. Like my bio, my profile pictures, everything. That's all I did. And I just geared it towards 14 Days, I just themed it [00:40:00] 14 Days.

[00:40:01] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:40:01] Chancellor Jackson: I didn't say what it was, what 14 Days In Beijing was, none of that. I just changed all the information. And just for me doing that, that's when it just started to, the momentum started to build right then and there. I'm talking about the very next day, you know what I'm saying? Oh, you know, you've tagged your profile picture on Facebook, uh, post it, you know what I'm saying? As a, like, Oh, look at his chest, his new profile picture. Same with Twitter. So the feed is just going crazy. Just for me, my profile visits going up just cause I done changed.

[00:40:29] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:40:30] Chancellor Jackson: I just changed the theme of my profiles, that's it. I ain't post nothing yet, I just changed the thing. But it's just that name,

[00:40:35] Ed Watters: Interesting.

[00:40:36] Chancellor Jackson: images was just so captivating, you know? I, I put out, I put everything I love into it. I put a lot of energy into it. Like I really wanted to, I wanted to, as you, when you read the book, you were, it's like you are going through that experience. It's you going, but it's,

[00:40:51] Ed Watters: Interesting.

[00:40:52] Chancellor Jackson: It's through Lucky's eyes but, you know what I'm saying? You feel like it's you, you know what I mean? So it's just really just, you know what I'm saying, communicating what took place and really submerging you in that journey. You know what I'm saying? So it feel like,

[00:41:08] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:41:09] Chancellor Jackson: I'm saying you get a firsthand experience through a, you know what I'm saying? Just from, uh, uh, just reading this novel. You know what I mean? And yeah man, just

[00:41:19] Ed Watters: Now you tempted me with the Lucky. Now people have to know what you mean by who Lucky is. So would you explain the Lucky and how you got that nickname?

[00:41:35] Chancellor Jackson: Well, sure. So Lucky is, you know what I'm saying, of course, is this, 14 Days is based on a true story, my story. But I made it to where Lucky, me, I'm, I'm the character. Lucky is his own person, um, it's the character within the story, um, that you're learning through. So, and how I came up with Lucky, that was, I was deadass going by Lucky while I was out there. I wanted to come up with an alias, cause I'm like, I don't wanna be going to ask my government name out here.

[00:42:06] So I'm like, what's, I need a nickname that ain't no nickname that I got at home already to go by out here and Lucky just kept coming to my mind. And it's funny I look at all, the reason why it kept coming to my mind cause I kept thinking of this one time I overheard my brother on the phone with some females. And they kept calling him

[00:42:28] Lucky, Lucky, Lucky. I'm like, Who are they talking to? Like, we have never called this man that. So that's why I'm like, Okay, he just gave them that name. Just, that was just a bullshit name he gave them folks. So, but, so it was just funny, I had a whole scenario replaying in my head. So I'm like, I'm just gonna go with Lucky.

[00:42:46] And Lucky, that was, folks was really calling me that, like I was, I was Lucky out there. Um, so, essentially, um, it, really, really, China was, I equated China the entire time I was there, I'm like, bro, this doesn't feel real. Like, this whole experience doesn't feel real, brother. Like, I feel like we're on a TV show. I feel like this is a part of, like, some type of movie or, like, even, like, being in, like, being in public settings,

[00:43:16] I'm just sitting back and just looking over the place. I'm like, brother, this don't even seem real, brother. Like, TV, TV show, brother. This, this is mind boggling. I feel like we're just college students and we are a part of this program. Like this doesn't feel like reality. It never, none of it. China didn't feel like reality at all for me.

[00:43:34] Um, so once, you know what I'm saying, getting locked in there, so after getting locked up and getting released and writing the book, I'm like, it still felt like, it still felt like a movie. Even especially getting locked up, it really felt like a movie. So it was just like, Yeah, bro. I'm, uh, I'm just going to make, cause it ain't like this China, that, that shit from China follow me everywhere. If I didn't write this book, bro, you know, y'all wouldn't even know this shit had happened to me, bro. Y'all wouldn't know who I am.

[00:44:00] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:44:00] Chancellor Jackson: If I, you know what I'm saying, didn't write this book. So, essentially, it was, that whole experience in China was just an experience. I got a full experience of China in symphony. So I'm like, really, I'm like, Man, this is Lucky's journey, this is a lucky journey. So, and it was a lucky journey cause this shit could have been a whole lot worse. You know what I'm saying?

[00:44:18] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:44:18] Chancellor Jackson: It was just, it was just perfect. Like, lucky chance, you know what I mean?

[00:44:24] Ed Watters: Yeah. It fits, that's for sure. So, so is there an audio book? The full length audio book?

[00:44:34] Chancellor Jackson: We're, um, not yet. I'm just rolling it out episodically, you know what I'm saying? On, uh, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Anchor, SoundCloud, YouTube. Yeah. I'm just, uh,

[00:44:48] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:44:48] Chancellor Jackson: releasing it episodically like that, you know what I'm saying? Originally how I released it

[00:44:52] Ed Watters: That's hard. Yeah, that's hardcore. I mean, that's good. And, you know, the narration of it, you did the narration, but there's other voices in there, did you enhance that through the DAW? Or how did that work? And talk to us about the process of narrating that, because it's totally awesome.

[00:45:19] Chancellor Jackson: Appreciate you. I appreciate that. Um, yeah, I knew I wasn't gonna let nobody else read this story. I'm like, Ain't nobody else

[00:45:26] Ed Watters: Yeah. No, no shit, man.

[00:45:29] Chancellor Jackson: I got to read, I have to read it. You know what I'm saying? So, and because it's from my perspective. So you know, it's, it's one thing if you know me personally. And that's why a lot of people that I, that I know, they read the book, loved it, because like, bro, we know you. So it's like, when I'm reading this book, I read it in your voice, in your context, like, I hear you. And you know, so it's just, that's what makes them, that's what, you know what I'm saying, that's why I did it. Um, but for those that don't know me, you're reading it, and you don't know my tone of voice, you don't know how, you know what I'm saying, my dialect, none of that. It's like, you don't really know how I would go about saying certain things, you're just reading it in your own tongue. And you're just like, okay, I might,

[00:46:05] Ed Watters: That's right.

[00:46:05] Chancellor Jackson: might have to re read over it or, you know what I'm saying? Cause you just not know. So I'm like, let me read it in my, I'm going to read it, um, just so they can know how I'm delivering, you know what I'm saying, the message. And how, you know what I'm saying? You can really feel every emotion.

[00:46:21] Ed Watters: That's right, that's right.

[00:46:24] Chancellor Jackson: And then with, um, the different characters, that's me voice acting. I'm just voice acting. Um, and the, my engineer, he's voice acting some of the characters. It's just us two voice acting the character, the rest of the characters.

[00:46:37] Ed Watters: Right on.

[00:46:38] Chancellor Jackson: Yeah. Yeah. So

[00:46:39] Ed Watters: Yeah.

[00:46:40] Chancellor Jackson: You ever seen, that's just our voice that's naturally in us, doing funky stuff with it.

[00:46:45] Ed Watters: Yeah. Yeah, that's good. You know, it really sells the story and it's, it's, it's so enhancing because of the differences and there's three of you talking in the room and there's a different voice for each voice and it's just awesome.

[00:47:03] Chancellor Jackson: I wanted, yes, I wanted it to be definitely theatrical. And that's why I guess that communication piece comes back in. I really wanted,

[00:47:12] Ed Watters: Yes.

[00:47:13] Chancellor Jackson: It's one thing to put it on paper. Okay, this is a form of communication. But if you, like I said, If you don't know me personally, how can I communicate truly how, you know what I'm saying, my feeling was and all the feelings and the emotions behind it? I can't really display that in the writing per se, but now that I can actually read it out to y'all, oh yeah, you gonna feel it, you gonna feel it, for sure, for sure.

[00:47:37] Ed Watters: Yeah. And you do, that's for sure.

[00:47:39] Chancellor Jackson: Oh, yeah, yeah.

[00:47:40] Ed Watters: Well done.

[00:47:41] Chancellor Jackson: I was high out of my mind, reading the first chapter. Because I was, well, first, chapter one, I was high when the shit happens. I'm like, I gotta be, I had to be crossfaded because I was crossfaded when all that shit popped off. So, definitely I had to put, I had to put myself back into that setting, all of that. Um, and I knew what I wanted to be. I just wanted to be theatrical. I want this shit to sound like you done went to the movie theater with a blindfold on. Like you, I wanted to be like that for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:48:09] Ed Watters: It's captivating. It pulls you in and it makes you, Oh wow. What's about to happen? It really does touch it off and enhances how you did that audio. I, I highly recommend getting that on, on the big boys platforms, because that's going to sell good. You know, I want a copy of it because listening to it, listening to it sure does, like you said, It just feels more real. And I like that perspective thing. What else do you have coming, Chancellor, for people? And do you have more books, writing books? You really didn't want to write books, per se, but here you are, and it's fascinating.

[00:49:01] Chancellor Jackson: So, um, after I wrote 14 Days, I thought, I'm like, Okay, this is going to be the last, like this is going to be my only book. I'm like, I'm out of gas. Like, I really, I'm like, I don't know anything else to write about aside from this. But then some months passed and I ended up writing The Romance Saga. So it was like, clearly I'm like, Okay, I'm going to be writing for the rest of my life. Um, and I, all my books as of right now, just based off of life experiences.

[00:49:25] Um, so, I just, as of right now, I don't really have anything else that I feel like is book worthy to write about. Um, but, shit, we never know, knowing me. Never know what might happen. Um, but I started working with other people that aspire to be authors. That have ideas, as far as a story, but don't know how to get it on paper.

[00:49:49] Or even wrote a whole book but don't even know how to go about publishing it. So I just been working with, um, individuals like that. Um, and I'm really trying to build a service, uh, with it, you know what [00:50:00] I'm saying? Just coaching aspiring authors, for real, for real. And I have one client in particular. We really just set his up and set his book up on Amazon.

[00:50:08] His, when I say this man, it's called, The Fatherless Child. Um, it's pretty much his experience, uh, growing up in Mississippi and being molested before the age of 10 by another, you know what I'm saying, kid. And he got molested twice and just pretty much how that whole experience has shifted his paradigm and him.

[00:50:28] And it's going to be a series as well and how all his life experiences from that one traumatic one, you know what I'm saying, has transformed him into who he is now and being a part of the LGBTQ community. Though I say this book is hard, like this book is, like, I, I enjoyed editing this book so much and I can't wait for it to drop, you know what I'm saying? It's very well written, um, and it's a very captivating and just beautiful story as well. Like it's, it's a great read, I can't wait for that to drop. So that's really just what I'm on right now, just helping other people turn their, you know what I'm saying, dreams into reality.

[00:51:09] Ed Watters: Yeah. Sounds like you've got a publication and production company, that's, that's awesome. And then, you know, that, that's something to really aspire, that helping others tell their story. Because there's a lot of good stories and people are ashamed or afraid. And you said it earlier in our conversation, that communication, that's key to life. And if you don't communicate, you're going to hold it in and that, that sucks. So

[00:51:42] Chancellor Jackson: You never know how many people you inspire or help out, you know what I'm saying? Just me or me writing my story about getting locked up, this crazy story. Then that'd probably, you know what I'm saying, shame most people. Most people be ashamed, saying some shit like that happening to them so they'll just bury it like you said. But, you know what I'm saying? Me, embracing it, you know what I'm saying, and telling the story and how it's changing. And then I got through the feedback that it did. Now people are like, Oh, damn, we all have, we all have stories. We can teach each other a lot.

[00:52:20] Ed Watters: Yeah, that's right. And that's what I'm about, I love stories because everybody has them. And you never know where that story is going to lead you, what it's going to teach you, or it could save somebody's life making the right decision about, do I want to do this in Beijing? So yeah, the, the really, art here is, connection, communication, and storytelling. And you do it very well and I appreciate it. And I want to say thank you. Do you have a call to action for our listeners?

[00:53:06] Chancellor Jackson: Um, yeah. I'd say, Well, definitely get y'all copies of 14 Days In Beijing. Of course, type in, you can find 14 Days In Beijing on my website, chancellorkjackson. com, or Amazon, or you can listen to it, a little bit of audio book on SoundCloud, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Anchor. Yeah, I think that was it. But all in all, I just want to leave everybody with a quote. Most importantly, um, I just like to allow people to reflect and, um, just self evaluate. And because I feel like that's, if anything I can leave y'all with is, I'm saying is that for you to just contemplate on something and reflect on you and your journey so you can better yourself moving forward.

[00:53:55] So the quote is, the quote is, is, Longwinded, running through this life like it was mine. Never settling, but setting every goal high. 1, 000 burpees on the path to my own self destruction or success. But what's a mistake without the lesson? You see, the best teacher in life is your own experience. None of us know who we are until we fail. They say every person is defined by his reaction to any given situation. So who would you want to define you? Someone else, or yourself? Whatever you choose to do, homie, give your heart to it and stay strong.

[00:54:35] Ed Watters: Yeah, that's cool. Awesome. You know, and owning up to your shit, that, that's really meaningful. And you find your true meaning, your true path, and you end that self destructive rhythm that we all tend to get into once in a while, that dead in America feeling. So how can people find you? Get involved with you, and hook up with you?

[00:55:05] Chancellor Jackson: Oh, yeah. So, man, I'm on every social media platform except for TikTok. That's too new school for me. I ain't on that just yet, but, um, I'm on everything else. Just Google Chancellor K Jackson. Just Google my name, all my social media platforms pop up. My website, other interviews I've done, um, yeah, you'll find everything you need right there. Google 14 Days In Beijing to find your copies, um, get your copies as well. Um, but yeah, man, I'm, you know, it ain't hard to find, it's Google.

[00:55:35] Ed Watters: Awesome. You know, you're a powerful story and it's going to change a lot of lives. I, I wish you a lot of wealth and luck. So, uh, this, this is a good story and people really need to look into it. I want to say thank you for being part of the Dead America Podcast today.

[00:55:58] Chancellor Jackson: Hey man, appreciate you for having me, Ed, and shout out to all y'all for listening, man.

[00:56:06] Ed Watters: Thank you for joining us today. If you found this podcast enlightening, entertaining, educational in any way, please share, like, subscribe, and join us right back here next week for another great episode of Dead America Podcast. I'm Ed Watters your host, enjoy your afternoon wherever you may be.