Unlocking Potential Kyle Smith on Clarity & Mindfulness

Kyle Smith

[00:00:00] Ed Watters: Today we are speaking with Clarity Consultant, Kyle Smith. He has a [00:01:00] podcast, Limitless Life Podcast. Kyle, could you please introduce yourself and let people know a little more about you, please?

[00:01:08] Kyle Smith: Sure, sure. Uh, like, like you mentioned, my name is Kyle Smith. Uh, I’m a Clarity Consultant, that’s what my role is. Uh, and I help folks get unstuck, celebrate their wins, and, uh, create goals that inspire them, and get them done in less time, in short.

[00:01:28] Ed Watters: That’s, that’s kinda nice because we all get stuck, and we need help a lot of the times. I actually want to go on a mass conversation with you, but I do want you to cover what NLSE is for people before we get into our conversation.

[00:01:52] Kyle Smith: Yeah, sure. NLSE is a practice that I’ve developed over the last couple of years and it’s a combination of story work [00:02:00] and breath work. It’s to hit the brain and to hit the body. And breaking it down, NLSE, neuro linguistic somatic experience. Starting with the N, it’s neuro, meaning of the mind, also of the nervous system, the neurons, and specifically what I help folks with is their mindset. And mindset is important, we understand that mindset is important. However, there’s not a working definition, so it’s ambiguous, there’s nothing to reference. So I define mindset as the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves or our opinion of ourselves. Now, when we have that, we can think higher or lesser of ourselves and we can adjust accordingly.

Uh, so that’s diving into the neuro. Then the linguistics, the language, are the things that we say, write, think, and how we breathe. Breath is the language of the body. So for the words part, with the stories, uh, what we say, write, and think, uh, [00:03:00] words, and before this I was a personal trainer, so I used fitness references, and this one is, uh, similar to how the physical body, is built up off of macronutrients, carbohydrates, fats, and proteins. The quality of the carbohydrates, and fats, and proteins that we consume is going to impact or influence the state of our body. Our words are no different, words are the ethereal macronutrients of the mind. If we feed our mind quality words, we’re going to have quality thoughts. If we feed our mind shit words, we’re going to have shit thoughts. And so it’s getting people to think about their thinking, with the words that they’re saying. Uh, how about, uh, the breath is the language of the body. When we’re breathing high and tight, we’re good to fight. When we’re breathing low and slow, we’re good to flow. So when we can take a second, and we could be in a certain setting where we’re good, we’re comfortable.

And then we take a notice of ourselves and we’re breathing up into our chest, we have shallow breath, and our body could be saying [00:04:00] something to us like there’s something, there’s something here. And then we can look around, we can say, No, we are safe. Big breath in, let it out and down, regulate. So it’s like if, uh, if our physical body is like a child or an animal, it’ll be like look at this, look at this, look at this, look at this, look at this, look at this, and it’s like, no, no, no, we don’t need to look at that right now. Let’s, let’s calm it down. Let’s calm it down. And so with the breath, we can talk to our body and our body can speak to us and we can have a conversation.

So that’s how linguistics ties in. Uh, somatic, soma, is of the body. And that’s the physical body, which is passive, we don’t need to really actively get involved with many things. So for example, uh, we cut our finger. Our body is time bound, it’s going to heal itself over time. It doesn’t involve us. Uh, there’s other aspects of our body, like the [00:05:00] autonomic nervous system, where we don’t get any involvement. It’s completely passive, minus the lungs. The lungs are the only thing that is a part of our autonomic nervous system. So our heart, our breathing, our digestion, our recovery, uh, bowel movements, all of these things are, we don’t really need to actively get involved. Uh, it’d be kind of weird where if I was sitting here and I, I was like, Hold on two seconds.

Okay, yeah, I totally stopped my heartbeat for those two seconds. That doesn’t happen. The breath we can get in there, the breath we can influence our body with. Uh, and so the physical body, that’s passive, where we can just recover. And then there’s the energetic body that is timeless. And the energetic body would be, uh, our emotions. So emotion, energy in motion. And that’s timeless, it’s not time bound. So over time it doesn’t recover itself. So with those stories, those [00:06:00] experiences, those moments, whether they hurt, haunt, taunt, annoy, they’re ones that we want to celebrate and create meaning or we’re working towards something. They’re gonna have, uh, feelings attached to them.

And if those feelings have lingered long enough, they’re going to stay in the body. And we could experience something from decades ago and we can experience it now as if we’re there, which is not accurate. And so when we go into the energetic body and into the physical body and into the mind, to be able to alleviate our body of all this pent up energy, of all this negative narrative, all this talk, uh, all the smack talk, it’s not even self talk, it’s just smack talk, when we start to filter through all those, then what happens is we shift how we feel about ourselves. We feel in the moment, different. And so NLSE, Experience, E, it happens real time. People feel the experience and the [00:07:00] emotions changing, Uh as they do this practice.

[00:07:04] Ed Watters: I like that a lot. I’ve, I’ve been studying and practicing NLP for quite some time. And it really piqued my interest when that, NLSE, what, what is this? So thank you for sharing that, Kyle. It was very interesting. Uh, I want to talk to you about our world. Because I can tell Kyle is a very deep thinker and, you know, the stoic thought really helps our world. Mass overload, our world is just filled with everything. And, you know, we, we, consume so much information, and luxury, and goods, and, you know, beach trips and everything is just massively overloading our sensories, [00:08:00] our mind. And I have found out over the last ten to twenty years, less is way more. And, and if we bring it back to ourself and we, like you’ve kind of laid out there, if we just slow down, and we don’t have to get involved with all of that, and know that, that you’re okay if you’re not part of everything. I want to talk a little bit about that and what are your thoughts on that subject, Kyle?

[00:08:38] Kyle Smith: That is such a cool question, dude. Uh, and it’s something that I have thought of. Uh, I think that there is a lot of noise and distraction. And it’s, I believe that when [00:09:00] we are trying to be a part of everything, we’re not choosing to be a part of something. Because we’re spreading ourself too thin, and we’re not going to be able to, be able to be a part of the solution of the problem. So what I find is folks want to bring awareness to everything, they don’t want to actually solve the problem. So I think that what decreases distraction is when we find a problem that we actually want to work on, so our problem becomes our passion.

And when we’re a part of that problem solving, then we don’t need to worry about distractions. And, honestly, I heard this one, uh, my lady told me it the other day, coach of ours actually shared it, and he referred it to food, but I believe it applies to everything, Where the more exciting life gets, and he said food, the more simple food gets. We can expand that, The more exciting life gets, the more simple life gets. [00:10:00] Or more exciting life gets, the more simple life gets. And when we have all this information and there’s this perceived expectation to be a part of everything, I think that that’s not helpful. People can do that if they wish, but I don’t think it’s actually useful. It’s not being a part of it if people are spreading themselves thin. I think start one thing, solve the problem, do the next thing, solve the problem, do the next thing. And have those problems be things that you’re really excited to solve. Because it alleviates a pain of some sort from either the self or others. When it comes to the amount of information, I think that it’s very, it’s important to be mindful and intentional with the information that we’re consuming. Because if we’re consuming information, mostly off of the internet, then it’s not personal information.

It’s personalized information. We’re just seeing information to validate our own perceived [00:11:00] biases unless we’ve trained the algorithm to do otherwise. Because we can train our algorithm to find information that we want to see. And say I don’t want to watch this, I don’t want to see this because it impacts me in this way, that way, or whatever and then removing the distractions as much as possible. And by uncluttering and decreasing the amount of stuff, I actually, saying it with the similar idea of stories, when we declutter the mind, we have room to throw the party. When we declutter our life, we have room to throw a fricking party. And we can really like do some good, good work. Yeah, that would be one of my thoughts on it for sure.

[00:11:40] Ed Watters: Yeah, that, that’s a good discovery. Yeah. You know, the, the discovery of that is very important for people. And once they break free from the excitement and the overload, they can really hone in and focus on what they want to do. [00:12:00] For instance, I have a big, big plan of what I want to achieve, but I can’t achieve all of that at one time. So I have to break that down and solve one problem, like you just said, finish that, get it working and then go to the next problem. And if I concentrate on each problem instead of every problem, pretty soon, every problem is solved. And you have wasted no time on the spin of worrying about getting all of it done.

And I think that mass overload, because we’re all bombarded with so much in one day, and I see so many people rushing to get things done. I have to have this done today. Well, I remember my cousin [00:13:00] giving me a theory. The 7P principle, Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance. And I, I really, I really believe in that principle. And once I took a hold of that, my life changed. And I really think that planning and, you know, being proper and doing the prior preparation, that’s very important.

[00:13:33] Kyle Smith: Totally. Yes, absolutely. I totally agree with that. And there was another thought that popped up here. Uh, one point that I wanted to say, there’s a, a definition for intelligence that I really like that has its practical definition of it. This was three weeks ago that I first heard this, and I really like this one. An, or uh, the definition of intelligence, an individual that can [00:14:00] solve problems. The better the person is at solving problems, the more intelligent the individual is.

[00:14:05] Ed Watters: Yeah, that’s good. It’s the same with leadership. You know, you’re a good leader if you can solve problems. And we, we realize solving problems, sometimes you need a team to solve the problem. And that’s why communication is very important, and understanding our world is about communication. And our body is communicating at all times, our, everything that we do is a communication. And a lot of people forget that in our busy world today. There’s, there’s people really doing some things that, I feel, is pretty detrimental to our society in many ways. How do we handle the decline of society while we try [00:15:00] to fight for the inclination of our society?

[00:15:06] Kyle Smith: Ooh, a reflection question on this one. How am I contributing to the downfall? How am I contributing to the solution? You know, because I, because if we’re not actively in it, then it’s passively happening. And I believe that when we’re not doing the thing, what happens is we’ve veered towards psychic entropy. We veer towards chaos. Chaos is the natural order if we’re not imposing our own order. And it’s similar to if someone were to look into the mirror, and people can be upset with this,

I don’t think it’s that crazy, I believe that when people look in the mirror, they know when they’re being a winner or they’re being a loser. They know when they’ve improved today and when they’ve slacked today. And I believe being honest, am I being a part of the solution or the problem? Because there’s an idea that I like where, uh, [00:16:00] it’s how there’s optimism and pessimism. And a core characteristic of a pessimist is not seeing the potential in the future. An optimist is a person that’s a part of the solving. An optimist is a part of the problem solving towards the future. So when someone’s a part of the solution, then they see the solution. When someone’s a part of the problem, they only see the problem.

[00:16:30] Ed Watters: Yeah. Yeah. You know, it takes teamwork to fix what’s going on in our world. And so, so many people are caught up into a financial competition. And I, I really, you know, everybody needs money, but I, I think we all need more humanity in our world, and understanding, and caring for one another. And that means building trust and empathy at the same time. And [00:17:00] I’m finding that harder and harder to grasp in these days. And I’m, I’m just interested on other people’s thoughts on that.

[00:17:13] Kyle Smith: Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Uh, shift the focus. I’m going to answer it on the fly because this is a cool question. The, the simple, and it’s the simple one. It’d be to shift the focus from vanity metrics to metrics that matter. So we can, we can have like bank account measuring contests all we want, but if the quality of the character and the merit of the character is not stellar, then it’s not going to matter how much money someone has. Because I don’t think that is the amount of money that brings out the person, I believe that money just shows who the person was to begin with. Uh, and so I think that the [00:18:00] focus would be for decreasing vanity metrics, and then it’d be increasing more of the fulfillment and the feels aspect. So money is, there’s numbers, it’s tangible, it’s scientific, there’s metrics, it’s easy to measure.

How good someone feels on the inside is a little bit more difficult. And so when we have more people that are aware that they feel better in general, and they’re pursuing them, like the goal that they want to, then people are going to veer towards each other that way. And so when we actually shift our focus from, or, we can even, we can maintain an importance of financials, and that’s totally fair, as long as we don’t remove the soul from the character. The consciousness, the heart, the, it’s kind of, it’s similar to, other than, other than, you know, Tony Stark’s actual response, but similar to Avengers, Take away [00:19:00] the armor, what are you? Take away the money, who are you? Take away the Lambo, who are you? Uh, give the person money, who are you?

Right? Works in both directions. Of course, Tony Stark’s a billionaire playboy philanthropist, but you know, you know, whatever. I think when we take away the armor, what’s, what’s left is the, the truest version of ourselves. And I believe that when things are stripped away and, even if it’s not like literally, even if there’s a metaphorical break, like let’s say it’s a weekend retreat or a session or something like that where it’s not even of importance and it’s about, or, communication, collaboration, and elevation, then the, the group itself is going to be a bunch of rock stars.

[00:19:46] Ed Watters: Well, we’re really caught up in financial competition instead of freedom of our mind, our soul. And we, we really [00:20:00] need to have people come together without that financial competition. How do we do that?

[00:20:11] Kyle Smith: Absolutely, I would say so. And then I would also say that the vulnerable point could be different depending on the person. So someone could have all the financial accolades while also feeling loss in their own sense of, uh, their own, they’re, they’re diving into their own winter arc. They’re diving into their own, uh, dark story. They’re diving into that point where it’s going to be like, this is going to be the time to prove it. Uh, and then on the opposite end, if someone has nothing, then that’s an opportunity to prove it as well. I, yeah, that’s how I would put that one.

[00:20:53] Ed Watters: Yeah. Yeah. So, so basically the, the best time to really truly [00:21:00] know who someone is, is when they’re at their most vulnerable point. Is that correct?

[00:21:10] Kyle Smith: Yes, it’s true. It’s true. I actually have a, this is my own little mantra, my own little story that I remind myself if I’m really like, if I find myself in a, in the Stuck and Suck, I remind myself of this, and it’s, Pain is the blacksmith that forges us into the ultimate weapon. We start out as iron ore, and we’re all misshapen, and we’re in the earth, and we’re comfy, we’re cozy, we’re sheltered by the elements, and then either by choice or by chance, we’re found. So either by choice or by chance, we’re ripped out of the ground, or by choice, we allow ourselves to be found. Ooh, that like flowed real well.

Damn. Uh, yeah. It hasn’t flowed, it didn’t, it didn’t flow that well in my brain. Like, uh, a couple, well, [00:22:00] last time I said it, that one was way cooler. Uh, and so, from that point, the iron ore is melted down, it’s put into, I’ll use a sword as an example, it’s put into the mold for a sword. Then that sword is heated up, it’s beaten, it’s cooled down, it’s sharpened, it’s heated up, it’s cooled down, it’s beaten, it’s sharpened, rinse and repeat. Until eventually the pain that the blacksmith has incurred forges you into the ultimate weapon. You become your own Excalibur. So you go from iron ore to Excalibur, and then from Excalibur, you have a knight that’s ready to go fight the, fight the dragons. And the dragon is in the way of the gold. The dragon is the story, the gold is what we want. And when we take that sword and we fight that dragon, we feel pain. There’s like an Uhh! And that’s because that dragon is our present self wanting to stay the same.

[00:23:00] So by inflicting that pain, we’re forging ourselves, we’re sharpening ourselves. And it’s not crazy, it’s not a huge amount of pain. And pain, when people think of it, it’s like, Oh, it’s excruciating. No, it’s just discomfort. And just, it’s all good. It’s all good. I’m sure you’ve lived through crazier shenanigans. Uh, and then from there, I actually think of it where rather than slaying the dragon, rather than slaying the story, own the story. Become the Dragon Rider. So you get the Dragon Ride, you get to be the Dragon Rider, and you get the gold. And that’s by taking the stories, owning the stories, and then allowing them to no longer have power over us. And we have power over them. And stories are experiences, memories, moments, uh, traumas, hurts, haunts, taunts, ouchie stories, awesome stories, death stories, dreams. I’ve done a couple things.

[00:23:50] Ed Watters: Yeah, it all builds into an inspiration. And, and once you find that inspiration, it is a passion. And I found [00:24:00] once you hone into that and start doing it, that’s the trick, doing it, and you turn that passion into remarkable things. It can, it can change the world, even if it’s one story at a time. And that’s kind of what we do with podcasting, you know, we, we learn to bring out the best instead of the worst. We can focus on all of that, but when we get on the microphone and we start presenting to people, it’s really about the passion that we have to change the world. There’s something wrong in our eyes, our feeling. And that’s what we’re trying to do, there is no competition in that. That’s just, that’s that community. You know, when, when we find community in that, that’s when we really can [00:25:00] start being the best we can be.

[00:25:04] Kyle Smith: Agreed, agreed. And I do think that, like when we find the community, it’s also an extension of the work that we’ve done ourselves. Uh, cause game recognizes game. When people are pursuing something where they want to do their part to be a positive contribution to the human race, then what happens is, when we’re that better person, then we’re going to attract more better people. And those people that are not helping us towards our, or supporting us towards our pursuit, they will just fall to the side and that’s okay. And that’s okay.

[00:25:49] Ed Watters: That’s right, that’s right. You know, I, I have this muddy shoe theory and, We, we are like a [00:26:00] shoe and life is like a muddy trail. And the mud is people, places, and things. As we walk down this muddy trail, you’ve been hiking before in mud, I’m sure, and you know how heavy your boots can get, sometimes it’s time to stop and wipe the mud. The good mud’s gonna stay with you up in them crevices, they know where to be. And the bad mud, it’s, take time often and scrape it off. That way you can walk down that trail and make it further and have less exhaustion because you’re taking the time to wipe the mud from your shoes.

And that’s the muddy life, muddy shoe life theory that I have. So people, places, and things, they, they are the things that [00:27:00] influence us, control us, or make or break us. And we need to be able to control that. So wipe it off. That’s, that’s my theory of all of that. Uh, Yeah, you do. I like people spreading that because it really is the case. The mud is people, places, and things, control the mud. So yeah, we, we really need to change our world. And I recognize from your podcast that that’s what you’re doing, you’re out there trying to influence people in the right way instead of, to just grab their money. And that really matters in our world the most today. And that’s why I enjoyed when you popped onto the screen. Yeah. I want to talk to Kyle, that’s for [00:28:00] sure. And getting deeper into what Kyle does, it’s kind of remarkable. We, we have a lot of the mindset in sync, and I think the focus is humanity.

[00:28:16] Kyle Smith: Mm. Mm hmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I totally agree. And there was a translation that popped up in my brain when you said, it was, Change our world. Take out the L, Change our word, and add S. It’s not Change the world, it’s Change our words.

[00:28:41] Ed Watters: Mm. Yeah. That’s, that matters a lot. Uh, I’m, I’m finding that out more and more. Because I used to not think about what I said, I would just flop it out. And the harm that that does to people that’s close to you, it [00:29:00] really does matter a lot. So, you know, living life is, is a joy and you can have abundance in so many ways if you find, to be just a simple person in life instead of needing to be a rock star. Let, let the rock star just happen. I think that’s a better way to flow.

[00:29:32] Kyle Smith: I agree. I like that, I like that quite a bit. Yeah, allow the rock star to happen. Yes. Because then, because then it really gets, yeah, I like that. That’s very nice, it’s a good visual.

[00:29:47] Ed Watters: Yeah. So, so what is your focus on the world, Kyle? What, what is the most disrupting part of the world that you find people need to focus on to [00:30:00] implement change?

[00:30:02] Kyle Smith: Uh, the problem that I see is also a problem that I’ve experienced, and it was a dependency on the external world to fulfill my needs and desires. Uh, I think that there’s, I think that we, now, couple points on this one. No, actually no, going with this one. A majority of what we learn in school is what to think rather than how to think. And so when we leave school, we’re still trained to just do what we’re told. So when we go into the workforce, it’s basically an extension of our school course. Or school force, there we go. And the thing that’s dangerous with that is there can be, uh, internal, uh, conflict. Because folks have been adopting stories that other people have said, you want to go to school, you want to go to post secondary, you want to [00:31:00] get married, you want to, uh, have a job, you want to have kids, you want to have school, you want to have a car, and then you’ll hit retirement at the age of sixty-five or seventy. And what you can find is that folks will get to that end point, and then they’re going to be, they’re not going to know who they are because so many other people told them who they are.

So when we decrease dependence on other, on the external world, period, just external world, when we decrease the expectation for the external world to tell us who we are, that presents us the opportunity to figure out, and not even figure out who we are, it’s to remove the stories that we’ve adopted to show the rock star, to show who we truly are. Cause it’s, uh, the stories are like the mud, they’re just adopted stories that we’ve carried. And then we can remove the stories and figure out, and not even figure out, I keep on saying figure out, but it’s not true, it’s, because the person’s already there and it’s just removing the layers to allow that person [00:32:00] to shine. And I truly believe that most peeps are well intentioned. And they have so much possibility and so much potential, and they have so much heart, and they have such a desire to help, and they have these stories that are, or these narratives that are lingering in their mind

that is creating resistance for them to make progress. And it’s a fear, it could be a rejection, it could be a self sabotage or procrastination, which I would define as actively participating and preventing our progress. Uh, and when we figure out the resistance, remove the resistance. Then we can allow us, ourself, with capital S, to shine through. So, it’s the, I want sovereign, savage servants. I want folks that are autonomous out there, thinking for themselves, knowing [00:33:00] that they are on a journey, that they’re bettering themselves, they’re continuously bettering themselves, and they’re bettering the world around them as a side effect. The world is just going to happen as a side effect.

If they’re freaking crushing it, they absolutely can. So I, it’s the adoption of other people’s stories. And another thing as well is, when people, to get people thinking about their thinking, they become more questions people than statements people. They ask more questions than they want to give statements. Because when we start to think about our thinking, we don’t have a biased uh, uh, concept. And I think that it’s, when you’re having a conversation with a person, when you get three questions deep in a conversation, that’s when you get to the meat and the potatoes of what the individual thinks of, not what their cookie cutter responses are. And when [00:34:00] that opportunity comes up where they can show it, then it shows them that they can do that. So I believe that when people get to a level of consciousness where they’re helping and they’re like being able to support people, not force people to change. But supporting people in their decision to change, because we can’t force people to change.

That’s silly. If no one can force us to change, we can’t force another person to change. Logic. And so with the questions, we’re able to bring the, the, the person out and be able to get more information and be able to contrast that with our own thinking to see where we may be faulty and where we’re on point and be able to support. And if it’s someone, if it’s a heated conversation, like, if it’s someone wild about whatever their thing is, in that case, like, ask more questions. Just listen and ask more questions. Because when we ask more questions, then they have to substantiate. They have [00:35:00] to reinforce what their claims were. And once again, three questions in, if they don’t know the deeper details, they’re not going to be able to, uh, last very long in the conversation.

[00:35:12] Ed Watters: That’s true. Yeah, I like that a lot. You know, and, and the big part there is when, when you do that instead of responding, when you respond with a question, it makes the individual think a little deeper, too. And that actually de escalates when you are throwing questions out instead of responses out. Big. You know, there, there’s a lot of people that are very unaware of that communication skill. So I, I applaud you for that. What, what part of the world are we going to be part of is the big [00:36:00] question. Because there’s the doers and the takers. So I find that a lot of people making a difference are doers and not takers. And what I mean by that is they’re willing to give of themselves before they expect anything in return.

How can we spread more of that value in our world with our communication like we do here on podcasts and on people’s social media? Because I really think that’s where this influence starts is, if we can control the amount of negativity into our social sphere. So, how do we teach people [00:37:00] how to be more positive in their presentations instead of all of the negative that we’ve been witnessing over the last several years?

[00:37:16] Kyle Smith: Well, a couple parts on that one. When it goes to the subjective individual, don’t pay attention to it. Because then we’re out of the loop of it, so then we’re not consuming it. So that would be like a consumption, being mindful of consumption rather than mindlessly scrolling. Finding something to have mindfulness rather than mindlessness. Uh, so that would be the, on the subjective. And I believe that if someone was like, if someone was spending less time on their phone and they were doing other things, they’re just going to happen across being a more positive, I believe. And then from the macro, uh, from the macro, I’m actually, I think I might challenge you [00:38:00] on this one.

I have an, this is an interesting thought is popping up. I would not want to control anything on it because that would be the exact same thing as, so both all negative and all positive on the extremes are delusion. That’s my thought. So if everything, if everything was catered to positivity, then we’d be ignorant of the negativity. And if we’re only seeing the negativity, then we’re going to be ignorant of the positivity. And yeah, and I think that that, that is a, it’s a challenge. And so with that challenge, then it becomes more intentionality behind the use. Because I don’t think that there’s anything, I don’t think a tool is inherently negative or positive, it’s the practitioner behind the use of the tool. So we can have a hammer and if we’re standing in line at the DMV, holding the hammer like a phone, that’s not a proper use of the tool.[00:39:00]

And a tool, and that hammer could be used to build, or it could be used to destroy. And so I think it’s going to be the intentionality behind, one, the intentions behind the person posting. Because they could be just negative, and if they’re negative enough, just like, block them, whatever. Uh, and then, oh, where was I going on that other part? So then there’s the negativity, and then that challenge. It is a challenge where, then we are more mindful behind what we’re consuming with that. Yeah. That’s how I would take that one. That’s how I would go.

[00:39:39] Ed Watters: Yeah. I think that’s big, huge. You know, consuming the proper things. Because, you know, I do go out, I consume on a research basis and I run into a lot of things that I would not normally even put myself into. So controlling that influence is [00:40:00] very, very important in our life. And I, I do want to recognize that as a very positive influence on this talk for people. Just learn to control what we consume. And, and that doesn’t only go with information, that goes with everything in our life. You know, uh, everything should have a balance. And our universe is balanced. If it’s off balance, there’s storms and things to set it back in to balance. So, it’s interesting to have these good conversations. And when we challenge each other with thoughts, it can change how we think. And I think that’s pretty important. That’s why I like podcasting.

[00:40:51] Kyle Smith: I totally agree. Likewise. Dude, I, yeah, conversations, [00:41:00] it’s, it’s beautiful. Because conversations, if someone is interested in the conversation for the sake of conversation rather than having a conversation to be right, then that’s, that’s a different frame, that, that creates like a really good vibe.

[00:41:18] Ed Watters: Yes. Yeah, because that’s, that’s my way of changing the world. I’m not right, I, I have no clue. I’m, I’m here to understand my world. And that’s what I’m looking for is better understanding. And when I understand people better, I understand my world better. And that’s what the Dead America Podcast is about. You know, we all feel dead sometimes, but I’m here to say, It’s all what we think, and what we consume, and how we choose to do that. So, yeah. It’s exciting what we’re doing, Kyle. Uh, [00:42:00] what, what, what plans do you have for your podcast in the future?

[00:42:08] Kyle Smith: Well, presently, I’m taking a break from the podcast for this year, for 2025. So 2024, I took a break. Where now I’m focusing more on being a guest on podcasts than a host. And then, 2025, six months in I might, you know what? Honestly, I can’t say with certainty so I, I’m thinking that’ll be another break month, or year, sorry. And then it’s just focusing on the practice. And developing the, well, developing everything, just making it awesome.

[00:42:45] Ed Watters: Well, that, that’s a good thing. You know, being on podcasts, that can actually make us a better podcaster in many ways. I enjoy, you know, going on podcasts and speaking. Because the [00:43:00] more we speak with others, the better we are inside of ourself. Because we care about what’s going on. It’s a big key. Do you have anything you would like to add to our conversation today, Kyle?

[00:43:19] Kyle Smith: Uh, yeah. I’ll leave, one thing that I like to share and it’s a mantra of my own that I remind myself of very often, so I’ll share it out. And it’s to keep up the kindness. And uh, when I say kindness, I don’t think of it as a feeling, I don’t think of it as an emotion, I believe that when we see kindness, we recognize kindness. And by practicing kindness, by practicing being kind, both internally and externally, and I would actually argue more importantly internally, because then we’re going to have a better external relationship. When we keep up that kindness, people are going to feel [00:44:00] that kindness, they’re going to give that kindness. And the better that we can keep up that kindness, the more kindness you’re going to be.

[00:44:08] Ed Watters: I like that a lot. Uh, Kyle, how can people find you and, you know, participate with you?

[00:44:20] Kyle Smith: Sweet. Uh, on any social platforms, I’m DapperDudeKyle, D A P P E R, Dude, D U D E, Kyle, K Y L E. And you can find website links or anything there. Uh, Instagram is the prime one where I’ll be able to respond the quickest there. And shoot me a message, let’s have a conversation.

[00:44:45] Ed Watters: Heck yeah, that’s what it’s about. I enjoyed our conversation today, Kyle. It’s always pleasant to, you know, have a deep conversation, get challenged in your own thought, and [00:45:00] recognize others for who and what they are. And what you’re doing is very important to our world. And I want to say thank you for that and thank you for being here today and sharing with us on the Dead America Podcast.

[00:45:15] Kyle Smith: Thank you very much for having me, dude. It was a pleasure.

[00:45:21] Ed Watters: Thank you for joining us today. If you found this podcast enlightening, entertaining, educational in any way, please share, like, subscribe, and join us right back here next week for another great episode of the Dead America Podcast. I’m Ed Watters, your host, enjoy your afternoon wherever you might be.