I had a great time speaking with Bo; he is a very understanding and caring person who wants to help you heal from your self-sabotage. Bo has lived a life that has brought him a heightened awareness of the disorder of alcoholism. With the development of his Amo Ni healing techniques, he is equipped to help you navigate the depth of your healing. Remember, healing can only start with the first step.
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[00:00:00] Bo Bissett: I came to Taiwan and then I met this woman and she was going through something similar and we both like, we, we would, just like peas in a pod. Just unbelievable, it's just the most amazing relationship I've ever been in. She's now my wife now
[00:00:14] Ed Watters: That's awesome.
[00:00:15] Bo Bissett: and yeah, we just immediately hit it on. But like when we, we would bump heads and when we did it was ugly, we were getting some pretty, uh, heavy arguments.
[00:00:25] And the last one that we had, which was about two and a half years ago, was like, was like, this is it, man. Either we gotta fix this or, you know, like, yeah, we, we gotta, we gotta move different ways. And a friend of hers introduced us to this program called The Spiral and it was designed by an Australian guy. And that is the backbone of what Amo Ni is built on.
[00:00:52] So I met with this individual. And so the first session that I had with him was like, all the walls came down, I cried for like three hours afterwards. We touched stuff and found stuff that like, I mean, I had no idea. But it was like, the, the, the best part about the session and the best part about this, this, this work is that like, you know, when we, when we, when we're going through it, we were basically pulling up these bubbles, these bubbles of uh, of
[00:01:34] awareness, right? And with this work we're basically popping those bubbles. And each time, you know, each one of those bubbles that pops up and we pop it, and you're like, those are the emotions that we uncover that you've been using to dictate your life. And by popping those bubbles, you are, you can finally see or be aware of the things that you've done, the things that you've said, the things that you've thought. And, and then on many, on many, in many instances, the things that we think, say, do, feel, and en give energy to, like, we don't even, we're not even aware of it.
[00:02:14] To overcome, you must educate. Educate not only yourself, but educate. Anyone seeking to learn, we are all dead America. We can all learn something to learn. We must challenge what we already understand. The way we do that is through convers. Sometimes we have conversations with others. However, some of the best conversations happen with ourself.
[00:02:54] Reach out and challenge yourself. Let's dive in and learn something right now. Today we are talking with Bo Bisit. Bo is a healing guide at ammo ne and could you please explain that to us after you introduce yourself a little bit, please, Bo?
[00:03:20] Yeah, no problem. Um, yeah. Um, ammo ne uh, First of all, yeah, my name is Bo and uh, I live in Taiwan.
[00:03:27] Uh, I moved here in, uh, well, I moved, I first moved to Taiwan in my mid twenties. Um, now I left several times. Uh, it's a very magnetic little island. It's beautiful. Um, and I got, I came back five years ago and I've been here ever since. So, um, but I came up with, um, This program called . AMO in Spanish means I love and in Chinese means you.
[00:03:55] So ammo directly translates into I love you. And it is a phrase that I have the people that run through the course say to themselves and mean it. Um, by the time that. Are at some point through the, the coursework that we do, um, the, the modalities that I use, I use, uh, am I, you know, using Spanish and Chinese, a combination.
[00:04:25] I did so because. Um, this, this healing modality is a, is a blended philosophy. We use muscle testing. Um, we use meridian release points to tag the emotions that we find through the muscle testing on the body. Then there are corresponding release points that we use. Um, . And then after that we use a proteomic breath to help move the emotions as we connect with them, uh, with the meridian release points.
[00:04:53] And then we use some neurolinguistic programming at the end to grease the wheels of intention and send the individual firmly down their path of hopes and dreams and wishes, get, get after they've removed those, uh, programmed childhood emotions.
[00:05:09] Ed Watters: And, uh, yeah, that sounds like. Sorry. Oh no,
[00:05:13] Bo Bissett: go ahead. I was, I was just kind of stuttering, ,
[00:05:17] Ed Watters: uh, that, that sounds like a well-rounded initiation to something to change your life.
[00:05:25] Bo Bissett: Know It really is, It's very transformative.
[00:05:28] Ed Watters: Yeah. So I also noticed you wrote, is it three books or is it two books? I
[00:05:37] Bo Bissett: wrote two. Um, and then, um, the third one is, uh, the, I've gotten the third one as well, but they're all out. Inside of the, the coursework that I, that I teach now, so there's ammo, abundance. Um, so I love abundance, uh, ammo, uh, ammo form.
[00:05:55] I love my form. I love my body. And then ammo movement. Which is I love movement and each one is tailored as a tailored, uh, program towards, uh, tackling specific, uh, issues that you have around or tackling the specific emotions around, uh, each one of those, uh, each one of those topics. Um, money, uh, love, uh, family, uh, our own bodies are some of our biggest.
[00:06:27] Uh, our biggest, I don't would say roadblocks, I guess that we have, and with the, uh, I mean, yeah, we have a lot of us have tremendous amount of, uh, emotional blocks towards money. , um, also towards our own bodies. And then, um, yeah, relationships as well. So these, uh, e each of these course, each of those books is available within the, the coursework that I do.
[00:06:53] Um, my goal is to take someone through this. Through this work when, when I do work with them and then, um, to never see them again. Um, I'm always open to communication after the finishing with the coursework, but, um, I want to, this work empowers the individual. And that's how I want to leave them. I want to leave them in powers so they can take the work that I've taught them how to do and do it on their own, and not just do it on their own to heal them, you know, to help heal themselves further, but then take this out and use it to heal their family and friends as well.
[00:07:35] Ed Watters: Yeah, that's a big chore, Bo .
[00:07:39] Bo Bissett: I know, right? Well, I mean, we gotta start somewhere. So, and the, the healing, you know? Yeah. Before we, you know, before we can heal somebody else, we, you know, gotta heal ourselves. So, um, and the work that I do, like I don't heal people. Um, I show them how to heal themselves and this.
[00:07:56] Gives you the tools to do so. Um, muscle testing. The self muscle testing that we do puts you the individual in direct communication with their body. So using self muscle testing, you're, you're able to, uh, break down the barriers that you was, that, uh, that you've. Established, um, from, from early childhood, we start listening to our parents and then our teachers, then their, our friends, and then our coworkers, our boss.
[00:08:20] And then every now every one of us walks around with a cell phone and like the inner voice that we, that we had, it was, uh, bright and shining when we were children is way gone. And, Muscle testing, reestablishes that relationship with your body, um, with your, with your subconscious, and it establishes that, that that trust reestablishes, that trust that you.
[00:08:43] Kind of brushed aside. And once you re-establish trust with the subconscious and you're able to talk to your body using muscle testing, you can find out any answers that, uh, that you want regarding the emotions that you, that you fit in, that your, your subconscious is programmed to, to quote unquote keep you safe.
[00:09:02] Right? So after the muscle testing, we used a meridian chart like map. and there we, our body's like a high school hallway, like just littered with lockers. Yeah. Um, and instead of old books and, uh, notes and whatever we used to keep in our locker. In our body, we hold emotions and some people hold 'em in our heart.
[00:09:28] Some people hold 'em in their liver, some people hold 'em in their, uh, in their knees and their, uh, in their shoulders. And our, our bodies are just our storage bins for, for these, for these emotions. Um, we are, you know, we're human beings, but having. Having spiritual beings have an, an emotional experience here on Earth, and our emotions are the, the foundation of that experience and our emotions from a very young age.
[00:09:56] Our subconscious is grabbing onto these and emotions and [00:10:00] using those emotions to program how we react to the world around us. So if we've, you know, if our, uh, we're having an. If we're out and about, you know, when we're kids and we're at the grocery store and our mom like fusses at us for, uh, grab, trying to grab candy off the shelf while she's checking out, you know, little instances like that get programmed and we, you know, we, that those programs dictate how we, how we interact with the world around us and how we feel about love and money and food and exercise and peanut butter jelly sandwiches and, and everything.
[00:10:38] So with this work, we find those emotions, we find those traumatic emotions that, uh, that are, uh, that are lodging our system, and then we connect with them and move 'em. And when that happens, like really magical things can happen. Life is, uh, life stops being. so frustrating. Um, I found that there are a lot of, a lot of the frustration that we feel is our conscious hopes.
[00:11:09] Di desires, wants, wishes, whatever you wanna call 'em, going against our subconscious programs, so like if you're trying to lose weight or if you're trying to stop doing something, or if you're trying to start doing something that, that, that you find it difficult to do very often there's. Subconscious program that's keeping you from, from doing that thing, right?
[00:11:32] Maybe eating is your way of comfort, or maybe you're eating is your way of blah, blah, blah, whatever, right? So that your subconscious is holding onto that. So it's basically like, uh, kinda like gears, like the, the subconscious gear is trying to turn one way and the subc and the conscious gear is trying to turn the other way.
[00:11:52] So then, and that's, that friction is what causes the frustra. . So by finding those subconscious emotions, we can move on and you know, and yeah. And finally realize our conscious intentions.
[00:12:10] Ed Watters: Yeah, facing ourselves. That's one of the hardest things we'll ever have to do. And. Defining our trigger points.
[00:12:20] Sometimes that's a deep dive into that subconscious realm that you spoke of. That's, that's deep n l p work right there and mm-hmm , that that can change people's lives if they actually tune into those distractions keep popping up out of nowhere for no reason really, that we can identify in the now. With that deep dive work, you can always find those trigger points that's really draining your energy away from you.
[00:12:56] Exactly. Uh, you, you, you tout that. How, how do you say it? Let me, let me get this right about Meditation is not, uh, where did I have that ? Oh, meditation takes too. Yeah, meditation is a waste of time. Can you explain why, please? Yeah.
[00:13:19] Bo Bissett: Um, actually I don't, I don't feel that meditation is a waste of time. I feel that, um, it takes too long.
[00:13:25] Like, um, I use that hashtag on oh, website. Yeah. Meditation takes too long because, um, yeah, it does. I mean, meditation is, you know, closing you. Uh, quieting your mind, being present, right? But you know, if you're using that to go within and find your, you know, and find the things that you're, you're quote unquote demons, right?
[00:13:52] These emotions that you've programmed that are, that are keeping you stuck, um, and, and frustrated and, and, and. Yeah, if you're using that, then yeah, just sitting there trying to sort through, you know, the, the, you know, the rie of emotions and everything else while you're trying to swat away your thoughts.
[00:14:11] And like, it just, it takes too long. I mean, it can take people decades to like find their inner peace with this work. It is like, uh, it's really search. . I, I don't like to say search and destroy. It's more like search and re uh, remove. Um, because with with muscle testing, we go in and we, we establish communication with the body and we start asking questions, right?
[00:14:36] And we start finding. Uh, with muscle testing, um, self muscle testing, I use my left hand as my control hand and I make a ring ring with the left hand and I'm right-handed. So, so my testing hand is my right hand, and I make a ring with my pinky finger and my thumb like that. And to make two interlocking loops like that.
[00:14:57] Right. And when. . When, when you ask a question with a yes answer, then the rings stay locked, right? If, uh, you ask a question and the answer is no, then the ring should, should break, right? Um, they did studies in muscle testing decades ago, and basically the, um, with this, one of the first ways that they started muscle testing was with two.
[00:15:23] And, uh, one individual starts with the stands with their hand extended and the, uh, testing, uh, individual stands behind them or beside them, whatever. And it places a few fingers on their, uh, arm. And with a, when asking a question, the, the testing individual pushes down the arm and. Uh, with a yes, the arm stays extended with a no, the, the muscle drops, cuz the body can't hold a falsehood and keep that muscle tight at the same time.
[00:15:52] So that's where mu uh, muscle testing came from. Um, then when I first learned about muscle testing, I was like, uh, I don't know. It's a cool party trick, but I don't really see any use for it in my personal life because I, I like doing stuff on my own. When I found out about self muscle testing, that was a game changer for me because it really, like I said, it, it's helped me establish communication with my body as I can go in and find out, you know, what emotions do I have attached to, um, This, um, some.
[00:16:27] Any, anything? What, what emotions do I have attached to me going away this weekend? All right. Um, is, uh, and then I go through it. I use the meridian chart and I find the emotions that, um, by asking yes or no question, is it, uh, is it fire earth, metal, water. Okay, water, is it bladder or kidney? All right. It breaks on kidney and then, uh, I can test all the emotions that are listened in that kidney.
[00:16:50] Um, so it is a fear dread anxiety. Okay. Anxiety. So then I can release, I can release the emotions based on the, the release point for the kidneys is right below the collarbone. Um, then I connect with it and then use the, the proteomic breath that I told you about, which is I call the ammo breath. . Um, it's a three part breath where we actually, uh, use visualization, but then also, um, some physical humming as well that stimulates the vagus nerve and helps the, helps us emotionally reset.
[00:17:23] And, um, so yeah, I mean, just going in and finding these emotions that could, like I said, we're emotional beings and we're constantly using emotions to dictate, you know, the, our reactions to the world. Um, a lot of them are programmed emotions that we installed as, as children and now decades later are dictating, you know, how we react around, uh, everything, the things that we encounter in life.
[00:17:51] So, and they really, really restrict us. And our experience here, you know, that's why we're so, you know, so many of us are routine, you know, we get stuck in these routines. It's not because the, you know, it's not because we're lazy, it's because the subconscious is a, in a majorly efficient. Entity. And, you know, aside from, you know, programming these emotions that subconscious is in control of, you know, the keeping the heart, beating the lungs, pumping the, the metabolism going, the hormones running, like everything.
[00:18:27] inside your body is the domain of the subconscious. So anything that happens on the outside, it's like, all right, well you, uh, when you were a kid, you did this and this, you reacted this way. So that's the way we're gonna play it again. And so to get out of that, you know, as when you're a kid, you're, you're, you're subconscious is basically like stamping a.
[00:18:51] Of your emotional responses. And then once that, uh, record is stamped, then you know, then it can just play that same record for, for eternity. Not eternity, but for as long as we're here. Right? And so, yeah, we did. That's, that's pretty much how we're stamped. And we're stuck. We're stuck in those, stuck in those same pattern.
[00:19:19] Ed Watters: Yeah, that, that tends to be a, a trouble point for everybody. We get stuck in patterns, whether it be addiction or some sort of need for something. We're all longing for something and that search can be overwhelming, that's for sure. Mm-hmm. , so, yeah, I agree. Y you're, you're in Taiwan right now, and Uhhuh things are really heated in the world.
[00:19:47] especially in that region. Yeah. How do you deal with that right now in your life?
[00:19:53] Bo Bissett: Um, honestly, I don't. Watch or read the news. [00:20:00] So, , I stopped reading and watching the news maybe a decade ago. Man, I, I cheat every once in a while and I look ats, espn, n um, just to see what, like . I know right now the N B A playoffs are going on.
[00:20:16] So like I, uh, you know, I know that the Celtics and the, uh, warriors are. Whenever, whenever they start the series. But other than that, uh, that is my extent of world. . So yeah, my family,
[00:20:30] Ed Watters: I, I removed, I removed cable tv, the television out of the home. We don't even go there. You know, I'm very selective about where I get and gather news.
[00:20:43] Exactly. Because it all sucks anymore, you know, and I, I'm. Tired of all of that sucking us in our world.
[00:20:51] Bo Bissett: I know, man. It's so negative, right?
[00:20:54] Ed Watters: It's just Oh, . Yeah, it is. And and that brings us to, you know, podcasting. Yeah. Understanding the world that we live in. It, it kind of is. . It's a unique journey, that's for sure.
[00:21:09] And yeah, it is speaking openheartedly to individuals. That's really what our world needs more now to heal more than ever. And I'm so thankful that you're out there doing these open conversations with people and trying to. Save our world in a small amount, but still it helps in some way. I know way you're active.
[00:21:39] Bo Bissett: I feel the same way about what you're doing,
[00:21:41] Ed Watters: ed. Yeah, it's, it's difficult because you get weighed down with all of, like, we've been talking these emotions, these feelings that we've drudged up from our past. It, it's so important what you're doing out there. . You know, I don't, I don't have the background of helping people that deep yet.
[00:22:07] Mm-hmm. , I've got a background similar to yours where I, I started being an alcoholic drug addict at nine years old, and yeah. And I, I ran How did, uh, how did you start it? How did, uh, how did you start it? Uh, my family members, uh oh.
[00:22:27] Bo Bissett: Just like feeding you off.
[00:22:29] Ed Watters: Yeah. Well they said my uncle Bo was his name.
[00:22:36] Yeah. Uh, he actually s It's Boone Farm Strawberry Wine. They always drunk it upstairs. And he said as soon as you can open that bottle, you can drink with us. and at the age of nine, I cracked that sucker had my first drink and that sweetness in that Boone's farm Wine, Uhhuh just threw me into this. Wow, that's good.
[00:23:03] Yeah. Uhhuh and it led more into other things, and my brothers, they would. and smoke marijuana and blow it in my face while I was sleeping and I'd wake up to this, God, I told you, no, man, stop it. So the influence behind that, that that really took me down a. Deep, dark path that many people don't travel, and I, I really had to fight a lot of demons.
[00:23:37] What, what kind of demons have you had to fight in your life because of that
[00:23:41] Bo Bissett: past? Oh man. It was like mostly for me. Like mine was, uh, oh, I can't believe like, That you've like, yeah, it's hard. Other people would do that to you. Like see my, I'm like all mine was self-imposed. Right. So I never Yeah. Oh man.
[00:24:00] I'm sorry you went through
[00:24:01] Ed Watters: that, man. Well, well, you know, Bo, that, that right there, that, I can't believe somebody would do that to you. Yeah. I struggle with that daily. Yeah. You know, because I love my family and I. I have, I've forgiven them for that. Yeah, of course. But yet it's still, what's the mentality behind that?
[00:24:23] You know why? Oh yeah. Would you take somebody down with you? I know, right? And still to this day, some of my family are, they're on a course that, you know, I don't agree with. . I love them. And you know, I support them in ways that I can. Right. And I've had to find the, the ways that I can not just give them what they want.
[00:24:51] Right. And that's a big, big demon that we face right there. Those things that we want instead of what
[00:24:58] Bo Bissett: we need. Well, I mean to, for you to be able to be in a place where you are right now. Not, and not just, you know, and not just, I mean, to forgive them is like, that is like really, I mean, that says a lot about your own character and where you are.
[00:25:13] I mean, dude, that's, that's, that's really huge. Congratulations on that. Well,
[00:25:18] Ed Watters: thank you. It's heavy at times, that's for sure. Yeah, I'm sure it is. Especially with that social, uh, circle, you know, uh, building a tribe because you never feel like you quite fit in. And yeah, of course, I, I've been ostracized because of my family for so long that, you know, I'm numb to it now that I, I just, I love everybody no matter what journey they're on.
[00:25:47] And that's what I'm trying to bring. You know, we, we, To unite and forgive. And I, I love the, I love you ammo ne that that's just killer right there, that's really needed in the
[00:26:03] Bo Bissett: world. Yeah. I mean, one of the first books I read when I first started this journey was about, um, I think it was called Love Yourself First.
[00:26:11] And um, so I read it and I remember like looking at and I was like, yeah, you know, maybe this is, it Sounds right. So, I mean, this is like 10 years ago. And, um, So I read it and I remember I put a sticky note in my mirror and it was like, I love you, and I, I would like go and I'd read that sticky note every morning or every time I, you know, went to the bathroom.
[00:26:31] And I remember looking at that note and thinking like, and saying, I love you to myself, but I was like, I don't love myself. Like I'm a. You know, I'm a piece of trash and like, uh, it took me, it, uh, it took me until, almost until I discovered, yeah, until I discovered this work that I was really able to like, really love myself and understand, because I didn't understand, like, I didn't understand, you know, like, The quote unquote voices in my head.
[00:26:59] I didn't understand like the things that I was doing and why, why I was making decisions that I was doing and why, like, why I would always like, seem to regress after, you know, after some sort of progress. Um, not just, you know, not just two steps forward, one step back, but it was almost like. It was almost like two steps forward, two steps back.
[00:27:19] It was just like, you know, it was just like, I was dancing like this, like this, uh, tortuous like, uh, horrible devil design dance that was just, you know, somebody just playing a puppet with me and, and I was just, uh, and, uh, but yeah, once, once I realized, uh, I, I, I think I realized it early on that emotions were the key.
[00:27:43] That the first, one of the first self-help books I read was that, uh, love Yourself first. One of the first books that I read, uh, that really kind of turned a needle and like made my brain, like, made me start thinking was called Molecules of Emotion. It was, uh, by like a neurophysicist. Her name was Dr.
[00:28:05] Candace per I think. And, um,
[00:28:11] So when I read that book, it's really touched me cuz I realized that, you know, she describes how, you know, our emotions affect us, like on a molecular level. And I was like, wow. I mean, that's pretty, you know, so I was like, my anger, my, you know, the way that I feel about myself, it's actually like affecting my body.
[00:28:32] and I was like, I gotta get a hold on that. But I was like, I don't even know how. And so like, yeah, I just started reading more. I went through, you know, every self-help book that you can, you know, most of the big ones that you can think, think of all kinds of mind Valley courses. Uh, meditation. I started meditation like right from the beginning.
[00:28:50] And you know, I help, you know, like I said, I mean, I don't, I don't have anything bad to say about meditation. But as far as like, you know, healing for me, like it just, it was just taking too long. And this work that I found is like just almost immediate. . But, um, yeah, I started meditation and, you know, while I was meditating I was always good.
[00:29:13] You know, I was like, I could get to, it took me, it took me some time before I could get to, you know, a quiet space and, you know, shut off the voices and, you know, have a mostly quiet meditation. Um, and I still meditate, you know, maybe two or three times a day after some breath work I do in the morning. But, uh, yeah, it just was not, it wasn't ma, it wasn't moving the needle for me.
[00:29:37] It wasn't, nothing was happening. I was great when I was sitting down, you know, and like, you know, there was no real world, you know, circumstances going on to trigger me. But as soon as I got out for my chair and like went on about, you know, normal life, as you know, we gotta work and do things that we gotta do, right?
[00:29:54] As soon as I got up, it was like, . Why? Why can't, why can't I carry this out [00:30:00] throughout the Monday with me? Right. You know, and um, . So yeah, and then it took me, I came to Taiwan and then I met this woman and she was going through something similar and we both, like, we, we would just like peas in a pod. Just unbelievable.
[00:30:18] It's is most amazing relationship I've ever been in. She's now my wife now. That's awesome. And yeah, we just immediately hit it on, but like when we, we would bump heads and when we did it was, We were getting some pretty, uh, heavy arguments. And the last one that we had, which was about two and a half years ago, was like, was like, this is it, man.
[00:30:38] Either we gotta fix this, or, you know, like, yeah, we, we gotta, we gotta move different ways. And a friend of her introduced us to this program called The Spiral, and it was designed by an Australian. and that is the backbone of what ammo knee is built on. So I met with this individual, and so the first session that I had with him was like, all the walls came down.
[00:31:14] I cried for like three hours afterwards. We touched stuff and found stuff that like, I mean, I had no idea, but it was like the, the, the best part about the session and the best part about this, this, this work is that like, you know, when we. . When we, when we're going through it, we are basically pulling up these bubbles, these bubbles of uh, of awareness, right?
[00:31:43] And with this word, we're basically popping those bubbles and each time, you know, each one of those bubbles that pops up and we pop it, and you're like, ah, those are the emotions that we uncover that you've been using to dictate your life. And by popping those bubbles, you are, you can finally see or be aware of the things that you've done, the things that you've said, the things that you've thought, and, and then on many, on many, in many instances, the things that we think, say, do, feel, and en give energy to, like, we don't even, we're not even aware of it.
[00:32:17] You know, we say things like, you can be a small. Uh, you know, we look at people, you know, we give off, you know, an angry energy or, you know, sad or, you know, poor me energy without even knowing it. . And once, you know, once those awareness bubbles arise and we pop 'em with this work, it's just like, and you become, you're like, oh my God, I've been doing such and such.
[00:32:38] I've been doing X, Y, and Z. This is what I've been using to and this situation. And when that awareness happens, then it's amazing because you finally have a choice. Cuz once. You know if, if you don't know you're doing something, you can have friends tell you, your family tell you like, oh, you're doing this, or this or that.
[00:32:58] You're like, yeah, whatever. No, I'm not. I don't, you know, but you're not aware of it. But as soon as that awareness becomes conscious, then you finally have a choice. But then, you know, , you see it. You're aware of it that you have been doing this thing, so you can now keep doing that thing, which has brought you to where you are right now.
[00:33:20] And it will keep taking down that same path. Or you can finally make a choice. You can be like, all right, I know I've been doing this now and I know where I'm, know where I'm at, and I know where I want to be, so now I'm gonna do, start doing something, doing something different. And that was for me,
[00:33:38] Ed Watters: that's conscious.
[00:33:40] Bo Bissett: Yeah, man. Exactly. And it was just that for me, cuz like, I mean I was a drunk, like I was a flat out drunk for like 25 years. Um, the before, right before I kind of got my stuff together. Um, I was in ti it was in, no, I was in Vietnam. I was like passing out the streets drunk. Um, I was snorting heroin like it was, man, I was bad.
[00:34:07] And, um, I called my brother and I was like, dude, I, I need some help. And anyway, he got me out of there and he started getting things back on track, but it took a little bit, took a few more. Kicks in the pants before I was able to turn it around. But I mean, I was, you know, I was, you know, a drunk for like 25 years and I, you know, I, I finally, I finally saw it.
[00:34:34] I'm like, oh my God, I've been doing this, like, I've been doing this to myself. I've been making the choice to do this. Although, like I would, I had tried to stop drinking. You stopped doing drugs like over a dozen times. , but I was just always coming back and always coming back. And when I uncovered the reason that I had been doing so after I finished this war called the Spiral, I was like, I think I could, I think I can train because if I.
[00:35:02] Because I'd always hated that the alcohol had owned me, right. That, that had broken me like that. And it just put me in that situation. And I was just like, you know, I'd always been envious of friends who could have a glass of wine or two, you know, and kind of relax and, yeah. And then that was it. Right?
[00:35:17] And then maybe not have anymore for a month or two months or whatever, whenever the, you know, whenever they. and I wasn't like that, and I just, I hated that. So after I finished this course, I was like, let me try it, man. I really like, I, I think I can, you know, if, if, if what I think is true, if these emotions are really the, the, the, the cause then I should be able to drink.
[00:35:41] Well, I did, I had a glass of wine and then two weeks later, had a couple glasses of wine. Three weeks later, had a, another couple glass of wine until I was up to like half a bottle. And then I was like, whoa, all right, man. Um, I could feel that, I could feel that demonn inside me waking up again. And so I took this, I took the work that, uh, I had been through and that I had learned, um, and then I started tweaking it and adjusting it and.
[00:36:10] I'm working it to, to, to strictly towards healing my addiction. And yeah, I did. So, I mean, when I stopped drinking 10 years ago, I was at like a case of beer and I was drinking, uh, Jack Daniels at night to put me down. And, uh, I got a beer in the refrigerator. Now it's been there for, I don't know, a couple months.
[00:36:35] I might have it tonight, I might have it in two months, and I might not have it for another six months. It just, I've never in my life been able to do that. And I've never in my life been able to actually have a beer, you know, one beer. But, you know, that's my choice now. And, uh, it's pretty awesome.
[00:36:54] Ed Watters: It's a good feeling when it's a choice, you know?
[00:36:57] Yeah, right. And, and you're, you're conscious of that and most of the time, I, I don't want it, but I'll have a sip here and there, you know, and it doesn't affect me the way it used to affect me. I, I would be on the bathroom floor of some somebody's house I didn't even know, you know, I'm climbing in their linen closet and passing out and waking up two 3:00 AM.
[00:37:26] in the morning wondering where the hell I am. That that's a bad feeling. So, uh, if, if you could change it all, would you?
[00:37:38] Bo Bissett: No, I would not, because I had, uh, if I did, then I wouldn't be where I'm at right now and, yeah. I mean, it was a rough ride, but, um, I'm happy to be where I am now. Like the woman that I'm with right now, like who's my wife, she's amazing.
[00:37:55] She's probably one of the best things that's ever happened to me. And, um, I mean, I live, you know, despite what's going on with. China and Taiwan. I live in a, I live, uh, outside of the second biggest city of the, in the country, but I live on the, like a little small mountain overlook. I'm looking at the Pacific Ocean right now.
[00:38:16] It's a beautiful, calm day. Awesome. It's just, yeah, man, I mean, life is good and I'm finally, you know, for the longest time I was, you know, trying to, You know, figure out where my place was in this whole grand scheme of things. Right? Yeah. And now, like, yeah, now to be able to help o other people through their situation, you know, it's nice, you know, it's like I can, you know, I can extend my hand and say, you know, look, I've been down this road, you know, grab my hand and I'll, you know, I'll, I'll show you the way.
[00:38:51] And then, you know, as, as we go through, I'll show you how to do it and like, then you can take it and roll. .
[00:38:57] Ed Watters: Yeah. Yeah. You know, and, and I make it a point, if I notice something that I've been there, I'm gonna reach out. That, that's just one of those things. Mm-hmm. and, and I stop often just to talk to people and, and that can change a life.
[00:39:16] Oh man. Yeah. You know, we all, we all. Want respect, you know, that's the bottom line. And, and when we feel respected, we feel loved. I, I've been with my wife since n 1983. Uh, nice. We got, we got together at 17, married at 19, and it's been a roller rollercoaster ever since. But , uh, like you stated, it's the best thing that's ever happened to.
[00:39:48] When I first met her. That's awesome. I love hearing that. Yeah. Yeah. When I first met her, I told her 25, I'm dead. You know, do you really wanna be with me , right. And [00:40:00] she's tamed me down to a little cuddly lion bear or something, you know,
[00:40:07] Bo Bissett: I love that, man. What a great
[00:40:08] Ed Watters: story. Yeah. Yeah. So, Bo, what, what's next for Bo and his intention for life from here on?
[00:40:18] Bo Bissett: Um, I'm just jra right now. I'm really, I'm very day by day right now, um, to continue doing the work that I'm doing, continue helping others, and then, um, yeah, we're just enjoying life right now.
[00:40:33] It's, uh, kind of, yeah, we're just kind of starting, I guess, what is it? Junes, so is it officially summer yet? I guess it is. But yeah, right. The weather right now is beautiful, um, on the weekends and then sometimes on the week, we, uh, we walk down to the ocean and, you know, do some paddling out on the ocean, got some canoeing, and, uh, just get out and get some rays and, uh, bicycle around the mountain and, uh, yeah, just kind of enjoy life right now.
[00:41:05] Ed Watters: Yeah, that's, that's really the best advice. Enjoy life because it's very short.
[00:41:13] Bo Bissett: Just, uh, don't stop, you know, don't, uh, don't take things so seriously and, you know, really, really, you know, take a step back from, you know, what, what you got going on and just slow down. That's right. I think one of, like, I've cycled a lot, I've cycled through five different countries and um, wow.
[00:41:31] That's one of, one of, one of the things that, uh, people would always ask me like, oh, what's your, you know, what's the best part? I was like, you know what, like best part is like, uh, since like the slower you go the more you see. Right? That's what I love about the bicycle. It's just like, you know, I got, that's, I mean, I, I, I still remember like markings on the pavement, you know, in cer on certain spots and, you know, across when I, I cycled across America and even like in, in Southeast Asia here, and it's just like, you know, just you see so much more and you take in so much more and you appreciate so much more when you slow down and it's just, uh, yeah.
[00:42:07] It's a good way to, it's a good way to do it.
[00:42:10] Ed Watters: Yeah. I, I like that advice a lot, Bo. So how can people get ahold of.
[00:42:17] Bo Bissett: Uh, the best way is through the website. Um, I'm monique clear.com, and, um, I mean, I got all the social channels and stuff like that, but yeah, the website's website's the best place to place to go.
[00:42:28] And don't worry, if you go to the website, I'm not gonna attack you with like, uh, email signup forms. There's no like, you know, join my mailing list. Like, you know, if what I'm, you know, if when I'm bringing to the table with you, ,
[00:42:42] Ed Watters: what's that? I'm guilty. . I'm guilty.
[00:42:45] Bo Bissett: No, I mean, I mean, it is, it's good business, right?
[00:42:48] So, I mean, you know, you just keep people informed, you know? And I mean, but for me, like, I mean, with this work, like I don't, you know, I don't wanna hound people about, you know, this, like, I want this work to like to speak. To them and like, you know, I want people to feel comfortable, like reach out, message me.
[00:43:08] I got a message platform on the, uh, on the website. Yeah. Send me a message and we'll start a conversation and then, you know, we'll start from there. Right. Um, Yeah, I'm not trying to, you know, chase, chase people down and like, you need to do this, you know? Yeah. .
[00:43:23] Ed Watters: Yeah. That's not it. Well, and no, you don't even come off like that Bo, you, you're quite the man.
[00:43:31] Uh, I enjoyed talking to you. I may as well thank you so much. Uh, I really enjoyed our time together. I respect what you're doing and please keep it up. And thank you for being part of the Dead America podcast. Yeah,
[00:43:45] Bo Bissett: thanks for having me. I really appreciate you sharing your platform and like helping me spread the message just like really, really means a lot to me.
[00:43:52] So all the best man.
[00:43:58] Ed Watters: Thank you for joining us today. If you found this podcast enlightening, entertaining, educational, in any way, please share, like, subscribe, and join us right back here next week for another great episode of Dead America Podcast. I'm Ed Waters, your host. Enjoy your. Wherever you may be.