Karl de Leeuw The Healthspring Code

“Why Minerals, Naturally, are Everything in Health”

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Karl de Leeuw "The Health Spring Code"

Karl is a returning guest on the podcast, each time he talks with us we take away something of substance. In this episode, we talked about Karl's book The Health Spring Code. Click to Tweet
We learn that the things we eat matter so much to maintaining a healthy balanced life.

We cover how your body processes the various foods that we consume, along with some very interesting scales that matter to your overall health. As we age our bodies need more attention to keep us in good health.

The fascinating book that Karl took many years to research and detail his findings for us can be found along with his many other books, on Amazon here.

I hope you find great value in this episode today. 

Karl de Leeuw Health Spring Code

[00:00:00] Karl de Leeuw: Okay, sea salt. So table salt is a slow po, it's really a slow poison, very slow drip feed poison. Um, you have to move to sea salt or Himalayan salt. I go for sea salt, I don't go for your main salt, Himalayan salt's even better. And the reason is it's, um, you know, where the, the earth's tectonic plates met, it pushed the mountains, uh, down and no, sorry, pushed the mountains up and up and that's why you've got the Himalayans, the sea salt, those pinky salts.

[00:00:43] And it's pure from billions of years ago, it's the purest salt you can get. But we mustn't dig up the mountains. So I go for sea salt.

[00:00:58] Ed Watters: To overcome you must educate. Educate not only yourself, but educate anyone seeking to learn. We are all Dead America, we can all learn something. To learn we must challenge what we already understand, the way we do that is through conversation. Sometimes we have conversations with others, however, some of the best conversations happen with ourself.

[00:01:37] Reach out and challenge yourself. Let's dive in and learn something right now.

[00:01:49] Today we have a returning guest with us, Karl de Leeuw. He is the multiple author of many books, but today we're going to discuss The Healthspring Code. Karl, could you please introduce yourself and let people know just a little more about you please?

[00:02:06] Karl de Leeuw: Hi Ed, thank you for having me back, uh, always enjoy our chat. And I'm originally from Victoria, South Africa, the heart of apartheid. Moved to London, UK, age 25, spent about 21 years there. But I'm now in Dublin, Ireland.

[00:02:24] My, uh, kids are here and, um, Yes, so that's, that's a bit about myself.

[00:02:33] Ed Watters: All right. Well, Karl, let's begin by what made you write this book and how long did it take to come up with all of the information in this book?

[00:02:47] Karl de Leeuw: Okay. So what happened to me is I lost everything in property, in the Celtic tiger years. Um, and then August, 2007, you had the world subprime

[00:02:59] crisis triggered by the American subprime mortgages. And Ireland, things went crazy. And after subprime, that sort of really hit 2008, the world, the next three years, property prices in Ireland went down between 50 and 80%. I was in a luxury area, Dorky, South Dublin, and it went down by 80%. Um, so I lost everything financially, uh, because of that.

[00:03:24] Cause I was in the middle of building a property in the bank school, pull the plug, long story. In any case, that, um, I couldn't invest anymore, but that woke me up. I then started researching, my daughter's taken out of school with dyslexia, we've discussed this before, and I wanted to get her back in the class.

[00:03:43] So I studied dyslexia and within dyslexic studies, they take dyslexic kids off lactose, and milk, and glutens, and grains, and they improve through functional tests. Um, and so then after I researched dyslexia, which took me six months, I then, because also nutrients and oxygen feed the brain, I better, I said I better study nutrition.

[00:04:10] And then for six months I studied nutrition flat out. And after that, um, It's my book, The Healthspring Code.

[00:04:25] Ed Watters: So, you know, a lot of people, they don't get into health until it's way too late. I'm guilty of that myself, uh, I did not dive into try to understand my own health and value of nutrition for a long time. What brought you to, uh, what they call a Seagan diet?

[00:04:53] Karl de Leeuw: Okay, yeah, that's a good question. So, um, if I can discuss [00:05:00] a few things to answer that, that came out in my research. So the first one is I bumped into a French guy, I never know how to pronounce it, Antoine Bechamp, B, E, C, H, A, M, P. Uh, he was late 19th century and his compatriot was the guy everyone knows, Louis Pasteur.

[00:05:22] So Louis Pasteur was very well spoken, quite rich, encompassing the opposite from me in that perspective. And so, because, we've now got modern medicine and I'm very happy for modern medicine. If I'm in an accident, I want modern medicine, thank you very much. But, um, Pasteur uh, had the germ theory. So you get the germs and then, uh, medicine treat the germs. Antoine Bechamp had a different theory,

[00:05:54] he said that everything is in the terrain. So if your body is non toxic, no disease can take hold, no, COVID, no flu, nothing. And on Pasteur's, Louis Pasteur's deathbed, his son found the notes, what Pasteur said. Pasteur said, Antoine Bechamp got it right, it's all in the terrain. So if it's, if your body is non toxic, um,

[00:06:30] you cannot get diseases. Um, then

[00:06:38] I, the second thing that happened is, I bumped into the longevity nation studies. And in particular, the Hindu's and Kalash in Northern Pakistan that lived disease free until the mid sixties. Uh, in my book I've got a video of them, you know, a guy in his 90's playing volleyball. Um, they lived up to about a hundred twenty,

[00:07:04] some people disputed, completely disease free. And then seven other longevity nations, the two main ones are the Hong Kongese in China and the Okinawans in, uh, Japan. And the thing that all these longevity nations have got in common is that they don't eat meat, dairy, and eggs, basically. Mainly not, a little bit of it, but mainly not,

[00:07:29] and they eat all organic. So they cut out meat, dairy, egg, eat organic. Um, thirdly, I bumped into the China study. So, um, Cornell University in the states and Oxford University in the UK did a study where they, the result was, and it was 1990, because Pu Yi in China got cancer. This is in the seventies. And they then conducted the study that I just mentioned, and the outcome of the study, where they surveyed 96% of the China population, then 818 million.

[00:08:14] Now it's what 1.123 billion. The outcome was that what causes cancer, meat, dairy, and eggs. So I then, uh, cut out meat, dairy, and eggs and 70% of pesticides. It's very difficult to cut out if you eat, you know, and, but it's got much better in the last 10 years, but I'll get back to that. So, and this is about 10 years ago.

[00:08:46] So what then happened to me, um, I then, within nine months, reversed my asthma. So I used to, uh, I ended up in hospital twice. I was in Tarrytown, which is Tarrytown which is next to the river Thames in London. And it's got, uh, it's in the basin and it's got one of the highest asthma suffer rates of the whole of the UK.

[00:09:15] And I ended up in hospital twice, um, uh, and on a nebulizer for my asthma. And I used to walk around with the asthma pump and I don't have that anymore. I don't get flus, I don't get colds, two years of COVID, I've had no COVID. I do believe people need to get uh, vaccinated, if your on a meat, dairy, and egg pesticide diet, which most people are, I do believe.

[00:09:41] But if your on a diet that I'm on, which is, uh, to answer your question where you mentioned Seagan, which is vegan plus fish and 70% organic. Then, but you've gotta be on it for at least nine months to a year, it's not something you can switch on and [00:10:00] off, then you don't need to be vaccinated. But as I say, for the average person, I, well, you know, I think youngsters don't need to get vaccinated.

[00:10:10] There's very little chance of, uh, unless you got some health issues, but the normal, healthy, young person under 25, you know, I don't think needs to get vaccinated. But everyone over 25, because you know, a vaccinated person, uh, uh, whether your vaccinated or not, you don't carry, I've seen so many professors that have confirmed you don't carry more or less COVID whether your vaccinated or not.

[00:10:38] So anyone that doesn't vaccinate, it's their own risk. Yes, it, it, um, more people end up in hospitals if you're not vaccinated, especially the sick and over fifty fives, but it's their risk.

[00:10:56] Ed Watters: Well, I, I agree with that, Karl, you know, I'm not anti-vax at all. I believe certain vaccinations has helped the population in many ways, such as polio, you know, that's the big one. But myself, I, I refuse to get the vaccination because of the way it was pushed out. You know, most of our vaccines go through a regiment and they are

[00:11:26] vigorously tested in many ways on animals before they start clinical trials. That was all kind of just skipped over in this panic mode and I, I really think that takes the safety out of it per se. This is my own personal opinion, I'm not a doctor. I don't advocate people, uh, not doing what their doctor says because I don't know each particular case.

[00:11:58] However, there's a lot of fishy stuff with vaccinations in general that a lot of people are concerned with. And with this round, I'm, I'm one of those that I really find it odd that they just, FDA approved this so quickly, you know, that makes me pause with concern. However, getting back to our understanding of our body and our health, pH is a big factor.

[00:12:34] And you cover this in your book, uh, knowing what your pH range is. It's as simple as getting one of these little, uh, do it yourself strips and it really tells you where your body is on that alkaline/ acidic range. Uh, you know, our stomach, a lot of people have this image that because our stomach produces stomach acids, that our body is automatic full of acid.

[00:13:09] But as you pointed out, acid is actually pretty bad for our body, our tissue, uh, breaks down. You cover, uh, few of these scales, the one that I found very fascinating was the, what is it? P R A L levels in your body or in the foods. Could you go over that and what that really entails? I found a, a PDF with the values,

[00:13:46] it starts at zero and it goes alkaline and acidic. I, I really was unaware of this and I find this information very valuable.

[00:13:58] Karl de Leeuw: Yeah. Well, you, it's a perfect segue because this is exactly where, what I wanted to discuss next. So pH, um, pH is like the conductor. It's the seventh thing that, uh, nutritionists don't, normal practitioners, um, nutritionists don't talk about except pH or alkaline nutritionists,

[00:14:21] they talk about pH. So it's the seventh thing and it's like the conductor. So you've got three systems in your body that regulate pH in your body, it's the lungs, it's your circulatory system, your blood, and your kidneys. So your blood runs at 7.365 pH so they always say seven is the middle of, below seven is acidic,

[00:14:53] as you say to zero. Above seven up to 14 is alkaline, but it's actually 7.365. [00:15:00] If your, um, pH, if your blood pH goes up or down by more than 0.5%, there you die. So your blood has to say within 0.5% of 7.365 pH and that's critical. And then as mentioned, your blood, your lungs and your, uh, two kidneys regulated, or some people only have one kidney. Now,

[00:15:36] um, if you, so the, the, now this is coming now to minerals. So the alkaline minerals are sodium, potassium, calcium, and magnesium. So let's take someone, I'll just go through three diseases, let's take someone with osteoporosis. So now someone is eating meat, dairy, and egg, and pesticide in it. All meat, dairy, and egg,

[00:16:05] before they enter the body are slightly alkaline, so slightly over 7.365 pH but they are acidic forming in the body. And that is what's called a PRA L score, so all meat, dairy, egg are acidic forming in the body. So now this person

[00:16:32] that's got osteoporosis because of particular gene reasons, and this is where I believe, and another pH nutritionist agrees with me on this, is that your genes dictate what disease you get. So before, a particular person that's got osteoporosis for particular gene reasons, their body, because it's now meat, dairy, egg is acid forming,

[00:17:02] it has to get alkaline minerals on the other side to neutralize that and to keep the pH to 7.365 in your blood. So the osteoporosis person pulls calcium out of the bones cause calcium is one of the four main alkaline minerals and that's why the bones that, gets brittle. Um, and it's all for myeloma cancer, people with myeloma cancer.

[00:17:32] So, um, so it's very much just a pH thing. Now let's take someone with, uh, myeloma with, uh, multiple sclerosis, now this is my theory, um, that makes total sense to me. So when I knew all of this, I, it was very easy for me so, uh, for, for listeners that don't know, um, around our nerves you've got an insulating sheath.

[00:18:02] It's, it's a bit, called a myelin sheath and it's a bit like a electrical wire, it's got a plastic or rubber around it that insulates it. That myelin sheath insulates the nerves. What happens with someone with multiple sclerosis is that the myelin sheath around the nerves disappears or wears down and then the nerves, what they call cross chatter, they start touching.

[00:18:35] So I knew all I needed to do is to find out what this myelin sheath is made of. And it was over 90% alkaline minerals. So I knew that that, uh, person with multiple sclerosis, all that's happened because the blood has to stay its flow to 7.365 pH, when it eats the meat, dairy, eggs that's alkaline forming, sorry, acidic forming, that person, the multiple sclerosis person,

[00:19:05] it goes to the myelin sheath. It gets that alkaline minerals to neutral, to neutralize it to, for the blood to stay close to 7.365 pH. And that's, it's a theory that I know will be proven in, in time to come and let's take the third disease, um, cystic fibrosis. So cystic fibrosis is all about the lungs and it just so happens that the lungs, the circulatory system, and the kidneys are the three systems that regulate

[00:19:38] pH. So if your lungs is one of the systems and you then sort out your diet, you don't have an acidic forming diet, it's gonna sort out your cystic fibrosis. That one, uh, to me, is a complete, completely, uh, no brainer.

[00:19:59] Ed Watters: Yeah, it's, [00:20:00] it's pretty interesting. So the P R A L is the Potential Renal Acid Load for your kidneys. And that, there we go again, we're talking about that acid load in the cells. And if, if these are not in balance, your cells don't feed themselves right. There's a lot of, uh, ways to detoxify the body. There's another scale, talks about the ORAC scale with, uh, the antioxidants and how it helps remove the oxidants in your blood.

[00:20:47] You talk about that scale in your book also, could you cover that a little bit for us?


Karl de Leeuw: Yeah. Well, so if you are a seagan, which is vegan plus fish and 70%, uh, Organic diet, um, your ORAC count, so you, the antioxidants, because a, a, a vegan and fish, a seagan diet, um, is very, very high in antioxidants. Click to Tweet
 And my antioxidant score when it was tested was 36,000 so um, which is incredibly high. So

[00:21:29] you don't even have, you get so many antioxidants so it's so good for you if you on a, a vegan diet. Um, so that just resolves itself, you don't even have to get tested. Now what the, the thing that's very important is when I went on a vegan diet 10 years ago, first I do a lot of tests. In my book you can see I've got a chapter,

[00:21:55] I think it's 17, on a lot of tests. And, um, I did a test, I did different tests to test the minerals and vitamins after I went vegan. Compared to, uh, you know, meat, dairy, and egg, right. And I discovered that my mineral and vitamin levels fell below recommended standards. I tested, uh, saliva, blood, and urine test. And the way I got it up is through going Seagan,

[00:22:26] so adding fish to my diet. Cause fish is very high in, in minerals and also the mega, good mega, omega fats. Um, So fish is not, is also slightly Alkaline before it enters the body, but it's acidic forming. So you might say that's bad, but they say as long as your body is about 80% Alkaline forming, it's okay. Um, so 80% is okay, so the fish, adding it is not a problem.

[00:23:00] And the fish, uh, within nine months I got my mineral and vitamin levels up to where it should be. So a vegan diet in the long run is, the right diet that I'm promoting for the next 20 years that we should go with is a seagan diet, vegan and fish because of what I've just discussed. But secondly, also, I come from Victoria, South Africa, a big meat, dairy, and egg consuming country just like the UK, I dislike UK and, and USA, but I would say even more so because South Africans even take what they call biltong dried meat to rugby games, to, to sport games.

[00:23:41] We, we just, you know, um, it's, everything is meat, dairy, and eggs. And so I understand all of that, and to go vegan, for a person on meat, dairy, and egg, coming from that culture is too big a step in any case. Where a Seagan diet gives that in between diet between meat, dairy, and eggs, and vegan. So Seagan, you just, so you, you have the fish and also the, the, the, uh, fruit and vegetables.

[00:24:15] So it's a good 20 year in, in between diet in my view, the Seagan diet. You know, because a person can still have their tuna steak, uh, they can have a thick tuna steak that looks like, uh, um, like a steak and, and, and, and that kind of thing. So, um, It is really very important I think to, and, and this is, you know, so most people are on meat, dairy, and eggs, or pesticide, which is correct.

[00:24:47] And then they go to the other side, which is vegan and we actually need to go to an in between diet, so that's what I'm promoting. And it's difficult because the meat, dairy, and egg fraternity, don't like what I'm saying, [00:25:00] the vegan, uh, side, don't like what I'm saying. But, you know, you don't see a strong vegan like, uh, my brother once said to me, in the Indian cricket team, I know cricket is not a big thing in the U.S., but, uh, in Indian cricket team, because in India, you've got the Hindus, which are vegetarians, and you've got, and the Muslims, which are meat eating. You

[00:25:26] don't, the, the Hindus, they, um, they are, um, they, their players, the fast bowlers apparently are not the, the Hindus, or I'm told, I, I, I've never really checked that. But you don't get strong vegans and that's the reason because they just don't get the minerals. And the topic of my study of, of our talk is why minerals naturally are everything in health.

[00:25:55] I believe that, uh, minerals are the most, uh, important thing. And I would like to go through the six items, um, maybe after comments, that nutritionists say are the six most important items.

[00:26:16] Ed Watters: Yeah, that, that's fascinating, you know, switching a diet is very hard. Uh, I love meat, you know, most men do, they love meat.

[00:26:26] So I, I was raised on a meat, potato diet, but I found myself after I peaked that 40 year mark, that really started affecting my performance, how I felt, everything about my life, it's in our diet. So with reluctance, a lot of it, we started changing how we consume our foods and we started looking into these natural ways of fixing our body.

[00:27:05] I, I'm afraid to death of Western medicine right now, it just scares the heck outta me. And that, that's a bad feeling to have when we can't trust a system that is supposed to help us. So our best bet is, understand how to feed our body the right way. That meat, it was really hard, but we are now down to just

[00:27:36] chicken meat, you know, I, I eat a piece of chicken a day because of the proteins in it. You talk about that in your book about the proteins, carbohydrates, the lipic acids, all of that. Uh, how, how, how do we ensure that fish is enough protein? And if, if fish isn't enough protein, how can we get the protein that we need without eating the meat?

[00:28:18] Karl de Leeuw: Okay. So I'd like to answer that, that comes in the answer of the six, six, uh, items that nutritionists talk about, but you, you just mentioned chicken, so I'm gonna, uh, if you don't mind, I'm just gonna discuss something else that's come up, that's in my book. So there was a guy, and a lot of things to me, which make sense,

[00:28:41] I take on. And then, then obviously these, a lot, lot of the, um, medicine fraternity would poo poo it because they say, where's the proof. Um, and, and this is one of it, but it just makes a lot of sense. So

[00:29:00] our body, as you know, runs at 37.4 degrees Celsius, um,

[00:29:11] beef, lamb, I understand, uh, uh, you know, cows, etc., their temperature is about 38-39 degrees Celsius and a chicken is about 42. So what this guy said, and it made total sense, our body fats, so the, if you, if we take foods in and our body runs at 37.4 degree Celsius, so sorry for finite, I, I do work in Celsius.

[00:29:42] Yeah. But it doesn't matter because it, um, I'm, I'm comparing it with Celsius. Um, our body is used to run at 37.4 and it, it then melts the fats, [00:30:00] uh, within that temperature. Now, if you eat a cow, let's say 39 degrees, that runs 39 degrees Celsius, that cow is used to, the animal fats of that cow is used to melting at 39 degrees Celsius.

[00:30:21] You're now putting that meat into your body. But because your body runs at 37.4 degree Celsius, it cannot melt. And it's a bit like if you, if you put animal fat in the fridge it goes completely hard, so it's a bit like that. And, and that's why we've got stents in, in arteries, that block up arteries and why you have triple bypasses.

[00:30:47] It's just the animal fats that clog up in arteries, it's very simple. If you're on a meat, dairy, egg diet, that's animal fats, those fats are sticky matter and they, they, um, clog up the arteries. And again, uh, the medical fraternity will poo poo it, they'll just poo poo it, but you just gotta use a little bit of sense.

[00:31:11] And know that that is what's happening in your body. Why, why will you have, uh, stents that clog, you know, it clogs up your arteries? It's the animal fats. Now with chicken, as soon as you use a chicken, the chicken is the worst because the chicken temperature runs at 42 degrees Celsius. So the chicken fat, okay,

[00:31:29] you can say you can have lean meat, but you, you know, that fat of a chicken is even more so of an issue in your body. So there's so many different things, but the, the, the upside of it is that, um, you know, I invite anyone for a nine month period, as I did, to, um, I've got, uh, I'll, I'll share my website. On that I've got recipes,

[00:32:01] my nutritionist, my Irish nutritionist came up with recipes, um, that one can follow. And then I've got in blue, a very cheap diet that you can, uh, follow, that I follow. And, um, and you know, I can maybe quickly briefly run through it, uh, uh, uh, while I'll do it now. So, um, I go into, and I don't know how all the U.S. is, but I go into one store, which is little, which is the cheapest store here,

[00:32:34] it's like a, a bargain basement store. And they now have a lot of organic products so I have, I take all, uh, organic fruit or vegetable that I can get. They don't sell all, so I go to another store that's got an organic section. So apple, um, Uh, uh, banana, uh, organic, um, carrots, broccoli, anything that I can get, um, that's sort of organic.

[00:33:05] Um, The, you know, your super food is your grapefruit, I don't buy that organic cause they don't normally have it and it's very expensive. Avocado, bananas they do, those three are your super foods, your avocados, your grapefruits, and your bananas. Um, and then, uh, I obviously have rice, so I go for gluten free, either rice or, or, you know, all the ancient grains, uh, or, or potatoes.

[00:33:35] Um, and if you can get potatoes organic, uh, that, that's much better. And then, uh, I get juices, uh, uh, they're not organic, apple juice, uh, mixed juices, any juice that's not from a concentrate. Um, and then, um, I go to the fish section, finned fish, so I get mackerel, I get tuna. Uh, so fins, any sort of finned fish and they're dirt cheap, uh, even compared to meat.

[00:34:13] Um, and then I get organic beans, that's also very inexpensive. Um, and then in the freezer section, I get salmon, but not farmed, you know, uh, wild salmon and, um, frozen. And, uh, prawns, I tested my cholesterol level with prawns. They didn't go up, you know, prawns interesting enough after I changed my diet. So, and then for treats

[00:34:43] I buy a bread that's gluten free and dairy free, it costs a bit more. And I have organic tomato on it and, um, you know, slices of avocado and a lot of sea salt or [00:35:00] Himalayan salt, I'll discuss sea salt shortly. Um, and then I get, uh, potato crisps as a treat but with sea salt on it that says vegan friendly. So it's, it's cooked in, uh, sunflower oil. And, you know, popcorn that's got sea salt on it.

[00:35:21] Uh, you now get, um, ice cream that's completely dairy free, costs a little bit more. So you can have a lot of treats you, you can, you can, now the world has changed in the last 10 years, 10 years ago was very different. You can now have a very, very nice diet and, and you can start eating treats like I eat, you know, gluten free, dairy free bread with, as I mentioned, tomato and avocado on it, with a lot of sea salt as a treat. You know, most people are more interested, uh, what fuel they put in their car

[00:35:57] than what they put in the body. Your, what you put in your body is you, and if you don't treat it well, you know, and a lot of people say to me, ah, you know, I'm just happy with my diet. That's fair enough it's free will. That's the greatest gift the Creator gave us is free will, it's up to you. But what we must, just remember, kids don't need to be in hospitals other than accidents.

[00:36:22] I know 100%, uh, cause I've written a book with 21 chapters, I've followed the diet in it on myself. Kids don't need to be in hospitals. All those diseases where kids are in pain is because humanity is eating the wrong diet, is, is, is consuming the wrong foods. So, um, I'm, I'm now ready to go into the six, um, different things

[00:36:49] nutritionists talk about.

[00:36:55] Ed Watters: That, that sounds great, Karl.


Karl de Leeuw: Okay. So, um, as I mentioned, I see pH and pH nutritionists see pH as the conductor, um, and, and just to follow on that, your, your pH needs to be nearly perfect, very, very close band to 7.365 pH. If you want to absorb Iodine, Click to Tweet
for instance, so people with thyroid issues, and this is not iron manmade Iodine, I mean, natural Iodine coming from food, you know, supplementation is really bad stuff because half is made by the drug companies, it's not nature.

[00:37:40] And the other half, even if it's made from foods, nature doesn't elementize. You know, we need to get off all the different mineral vitamins dance together. We need to get the minerals in natural format. So that's why a lot of vegans start using a lot of supplementations. No, no, no, any supplementation's bad, you need to get it from the food.

[00:38:02] And that's why the Seagan diet is the only one that can resolve the mineral and vitamins. Okay. So what's the six, um, items in addition to the pH conductor that nutritionists talk about. Minerals, vitamins, water, carbs, fat, proteins. And the proteins is the one you asked for, they discuss that last. So minerals and vitamins, they dance together.

[00:38:29] So the way you resolve that is by eating seafood. So once you've cut out, you have to cut out meat, dairy, eggs, and pesticides. So the way you sort out mineral vitamins, they dance together, seafood. Then water, um, There's a water structured, structured, uh, water device that can sort out water, but normal drinking water are, are not so bad certainly in the UK and U.S.

[00:38:59] So I won't discuss water specifically, but I've got a very strong chapter on water. And bottled water is, the plastic degenerates through, through having to recycle it, it's so huge that currently I would say to people just drink your normal tap water. Carbs, carbohydrates, so that is your potato or the, um, carbs in your, in your, uh, bread.

[00:39:32] So you have to go to specialist shops, organic that cut out, um, um, the, the dairy and, and gluten in, in, in my view. But you can get that through potato, through rice, I don't buy organic rice because, uh, uh, rice and there's obviously ancient grains, millet, buckwheat, um, and you just go in a browser, put in ancient grains, [00:40:00] so all those. Quinoa, quinoa is, is another one.

[00:40:03] But rice and potatoes is, is, is what I mainly have, so that sorts that one out. Then the fats, animal fats are the ones that clog up the arteries, in time it's gonna be proven. So when you go to, uh, fruits and vegetables, they have good fats in them. And then the, um, fish has got the omegas in them, 6, 3, 6, and nine omegas.

[00:40:31] Ed Watters: So what

[00:40:31] about nuts, Carl?

[00:40:35] Karl de Leeuw: Okay, so interesting, there's nothing bad I can find out about nuts, but, and I do have a little bit of nuts every now and then. But it's interesting that my three kids have got nut allergies. So I believe because different genes of different people dictate different diseases, all these things that create issues in people's bodies

[00:41:01] are things we should cut out as humanity, even if, though you don't suffer from it. So generally let's say, people cut out nuts. So I don't go for almond, oh yeah, that's another thing, uh, I didn't mention it. For, for breakfast I either have, one morning I have AVO, uh, AVO or some, uh, Mrs. Braggs um, acidic, you know, uh, vinegar.

[00:41:28] I cut a, um, grapefruit in half and then slice it and a banana. The other morning, I had a gluten dairy free cereal. You now get buckwheat cereals, all kind of cereals that's gluten-free, millet and all kind of things. And with that, I have a banana that I cut up, uh, or rice milk, or quinoa milk. You get a gluten free oat milk now as well, or coconut milk, but I don't go for the almond milk,

[00:41:59] or the nuts ones, um, for that reason. So I would just generally say cut out, uh, nuts because we need to, for people that suffer on nuts, there are, uh, if you go on a browser there's thousands of people, uh, die of, um, nut allergies every year, we should really be cutting out nuts, uh, generally. So coming then to the last one, protein that you mentioned, it's one of the biggest myths

[00:42:29] that's put out by the meat, dairy, egg industry, the protein. Your fruits and vegetables have all got protein and then seafood's got a lot of protein in it. The way I, you test your protein is through an amino acid test. So I tested it, I, I, um, it's a, I forget whether it's a blood or an urine test, I sent it away. And it's all in my chapter 17.

[00:43:00] And I'd, all the amino acids, which is the, the protein's there. So it's one of the biggest myths that's put out there by the, uh, by the meat, dairy, egg industry. Um, so I've got my last two items on my show notes is sea salt and. And I want to end up with the healing crisis, but anything else before getting to those last two points?

[00:43:28] Ed Watters: No, you covered that quite well. I, I, I'm impressed that you went and did all of this research. It, it can help a lot of people, so I'm, I'm ready to listen on and get to some of the good things here.

[00:43:49] Karl de Leeuw: Yeah, well, the, um, you know, I've discussed the most important things. Uh, I'll take it, by the end, I'll give my website and you can give, a very quick summary

[00:44:00] I'll give on there of how pH works. And, and then if you're gonna delve into more details, it's all in my book, The, The Health Spring Code. Um, that's on Amazon and on my website. Um, And yeah. So the last two items is sea, sea salt and the healing crisis. Okay, sea salt. So table salt is a slow, really a slow poison, very slow drip feed poison.

[00:44:32] Um, you have to move to sea salt or Himalayan salt, I go for sea salt, I don't go for Himalayan salt. Himalayan salt's even better and the reason is it's, um, you know, where the, the earth's tectonic plates met, it pushed the mountains, uh, down and no, sorry, pushed the mountains up. And, and that's why you've got the Himalayans, the sea [00:45:00] salt,

[00:45:00] those pinky salts. And it's pure from billions of years ago, it's the purest salt you can get, but we mustn't dig up the mountains. So I go for sea salt. And so what is the difference? So, um,

[00:45:21] what they do for, for industrial purposes, um, the, they boil sea salt at extremely high temperatures, like 300 degrees Celsius. So that on its own is already bad, you, you, you know, it destroys the salt. But the reason why they do it, they remove all the minerals except Nacl, sodium chloride, Nacl. And the reason why they do it for industrial purposes interesting enough is,

[00:46:02] because once they remove all the other minerals, sodium chloride don't react. Uh, if they make Upvc windows, for instance, it doesn't react with that. So it's a, it's a, table salt is a salt that, uh, don't react with things. Now the food industry gets the leftover of that, 10% leftover goes to the food industry called table salt.

[00:46:39] So it's, it's already something that's cooked at six hundred, three hundred degrees Celsius, which is terrible, but it's dead. And all the 50, 60 different minerals have been removed and it sits with this sodium chloride there that don't react. And the food industries love that because all the minerals that react with food have been removed so they can use it as a preservative.

[00:47:06] So that's why, if it just got salt on it, never I pick a thing up that just says salt, mostly I put it down. Um, Fortunately more and more people, uh, companies are clocking up, because I see sea salt on it, I see people know what they're talking about. Um, so we need to go to sea salt, you know, salt gets a bad wrap with blood pressure and anything like that.

[00:47:31] believe me, I, I have a grinder, I put sea salt on my food like crazy. Because it's got 50 or 60 trace minerals in it. It's one of the most important things you need to put on your food, the more sea salt you can put on your food, the better, because it's packed with minerals again. So seafood gives you minerals, sea salt gives you lots of minerals and you can have it in copious amounts no matter what the mineral, what, uh, um, the medical industry says. Because, you know, um, the reason why sea salt, why salt gets a bad rap is table salt,

[00:48:09] not sea salt. The word salary, you know, what we get paid, sea salt used to be a trading commodity, it's, it's, used to be nearly like gold in a sense, you know, salt. So, um, you know, it's a really, uh, important thing so, um, to, to, to have. And then the last item is the healing crisis. So, uh, and I devoted a chapter to this in my book.

[00:48:46] So what happens now? So your listener, tomorrow you say, okay, go to Karl's website, I'm gonna follow those recipes or go to the cheaper one in blue and change my diet. And I'm gonna do this for nine months. Um, then you start having, uh, fruit, veg, seafood, you're washing your body. I like once measured it and it was like, I get, just your food,

[00:49:17] you get about two liters just through, because you know, a lot of fruit and veggies is, is water. But it's got a lot of minerals, other good stuff in it. So now you're washing your body, you, you will start going to the toilet far more regularly. The poo, because you're washing your body, but all the pesticides that, that's trapped in your body,

[00:49:43] so you, you've been on a meat, dairy, and egg, and pesticide party. Those pesticides are trapped in your cells. Now they start to get released into your bloodstream because the meat, the, the, the seagan diet is [00:50:00] washing your body. It's like a washing, it's like a, it's like a cup that, uh, was overflowing with all the bad stuff

[00:50:09] and now you're getting good stuff in it. And it's, it's now washing up, you know, all the terrible stuff, but that terrible stuff is going into your bloodstream. So what happens? You get sick and that's what's called the healing crisis. And that's, you know, everything goes against changing your diet because now you get sick.

[00:50:32] And what does a person do? They run to their GP. And GP's don't, normal GP's, there are some, but normal GP's don't understand nutrition. You know, a normal GP only studies nutrition of a seven year course for one day. They don't understand nutrition so they just give you more medicine or whatever. So when you start to feel bad, you need to know it's only gonna be temporary.

[00:50:58] It is a sign that you're getting well, it's a sign that you're pushing out all this rubbish outta your body.

[00:51:08] Ed Watters: Yeah. I find it unique you mentioned the doctors, they don't talk about nutrition with you. I've, I've never had a doctor talk about nutrition with me. It's, it's incredible because I find it odd that they lack in that knowledge, because it, it is what makes us feel healthy is

[00:51:43] what we intake. So to, to really listen to somebody that knows about nutrition, you gotta go to like a nutritionist and, uh, somebody that knows the nutrition value of foods and how to incorporate those into menus. Uh, the dietician that I used to work for when I worked in a hospital, uh, cooking it, it's fascinating what

[00:52:11] they actually talk about when you sit down and talk about nutrition. And when you go to cook your foods, uh, even the way you prepare it can change and alter the vitamin and mineral level content in that food. I found it fascinating and if you don't really dive in and study what you're putting into yourself, you're gonna end up sick

[00:52:43] uh, I can guarantee if you're eating McDonald's and, uh, Burger King and all of that every day of your life. And exercise, you have another chapter talks about exercise, that's very important when we're talking about nutrition because without proper exercise, the nutrition really doesn't get incorporated into your body in the right amount either.

[00:53:14] Uh, what, what, what do you say about that, uh, in your book about exercise and nutrition together?

[00:53:24] Karl de Leeuw: Yeah. So if you are, you know, most people say, in the U.S., 99% of people are meat, dairy, eggs diet, which is the wrong diet as we discussed, so now they go and exercise. So their arteries are full of, uh, animal fats and, you know, a lot of people have got stents.

[00:53:45] So when they go and exercise, that is really dangerous stuff because, um, you know, you're putting more pressure on your, on your heart. And, uh, just for interest sake, what I discussed there in my chapter on exercises, I never knew it, is that, um, your muscles in your body helps the heart. It contracts automatically and pushes the blood up the veins to your heart.

[00:54:18] So you, it's not only your heart that pushes the blood, it's the main thing, the heart, but your body, your muscles automatically also pushes up, um, the blood up your veins to your heart. Um, so it's good to exercise but can be hugely risky if someone on meat, dairy, eggs dies. Um, so, you know, the longevity nations were all fit people, you know?

[00:54:45] So I go for long walks, it's obviously good to swim, I play golf and stuff like that. But, um, It's and, and it is very important, but all I would say to, to someone is that, [00:55:00] um, I think it's more important, the first thing I would do, I wouldn't go and exercise more other than walks. And I wouldn't go into a gym with a lot of bells and stuff like that for the first nine months after changing the diet. First for nine months,

[00:55:22] wash your body clean start getting, you know, you're not gonna get rid of all the, um, fats in your, in your arteries, but you will start cleaning it. And then after nine months start going to a gym. Because it can be, a gym for, for someone on a meat, dairy, eggs diet is I think, quite a dangerous thing.

[00:55:46] Um, just go for long walks, play golf, or, or any sport that, that is, that you're not pushing your heart rate up to exceptional business, to exceptional levels. And then once you are on a, on a, on a seagan diet, uh, for, for nine months or more, then you can go into the gym and stuff like that. That's, that's my view on that one.

[00:56:12] Ed Watters: Yeah. Uh, it's always fascinating to talk to you, Karl. Uh, where can people find you? What's your website and tell them how to get ahold of you basically.


Karl de Leeuw: So my web, website is lightsurfers.me and that is spelled L I G H T S U R F E R S dot M E. Light as light of greater, surfers, like surfing the wave. me, lightsurfers.me. Click to Tweet

[00:56:43] And then when people go on that, at the bottom, I've got three web pages, one on dyslexia, one on health, and one on world peace. And the one to click on is Let's Live Longer Now and all the information is there.

[00:57:02] Ed Watters: All right. And how can they get your fascinating book?

[00:57:07] Karl de Leeuw: Yeah. So when, when you go on, um, lightsurfers.me,

[00:57:11] um, right at the top, buy it there. Or you can go right to the bottom click on Let's Live Longer Now it's again, there, or people can just go to Amazon and put in The Health Spring Code or one word health as in health, spring, as in jump, Code. The Health Spring Code.

[00:57:32] Ed Watters: And it's very affordable.

[00:57:34] Also Karl has other books that are free. I highly recommend all of Karl's books because he goes in, he's not afraid to ask the questions. That's, what's great about having Karl on. Karl, You're fascinating and you're always welcome here. I wanna say thank you for being part of the Dead America family.

[00:57:59] Karl de Leeuw: Thank you, Ed,

[00:57:59] thank you, for having me on.

[00:58:02] Ed Watters: Thank you for being here, Karl.

[00:58:07] Thank you for joining us today. If you found this podcast enlightening, entertaining, educational in any way, please share, like, subscribe, and join us right back here next week for another great episode of Dead America Podcast. I'm Ed Watters your host, enjoy your afternoon wherever you may

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ORAC, short for Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity, is a test tube analysis that measures the total antioxidant power of foods and other chemical substances.
The pH scale ranges from 0 (strongly acidic) to 14 (strongly basic or alkaline). A pH of 7.0, in the middle of this scale, is neutral. Blood is normally slightly basic, with a normal pH range of about 7.35 to 7.45. Usually, the body maintains the pH of blood close to 7.40.